So was Hurney the one that decided to cut Cam?

[pantherclaw]

Could be.  It only would have made sense if he drafted his replacement  in Herbert. 

Don't care what ya say about Teddy,  he wouldn't be here without Brady. 

Plus the ultimate bottom line. Had Hurney cut Cam without Teppers okay, Hurney would have been fired instantly.  

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, Cary Kollins said:

the 2020 Panthers would be a playoff team with Cam Newton at QB

 

haters will say it’s a lie 

Thats lol funny

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, GOAT said:

butthurt lmao, the safe word of the internet.

let's do this, I repost my thread - and we see which one gets more traction?

I don't even remember what your bad thread was. I just find it funny you're still mad weeks later. That's serious butthurt.

[onmyown]

11 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

How many Patriots games have you watched this year? I’ve watched every snap. He’s still capable of being a good QB. He still has his faults but he has literally nothing around him on offense. Worst skill position group than some colleges and that’s not an exaggeration. 
 

Keeping Cam had nothing to do with him being washed or not. It was a win/win situation. If he’s washed we’re in a better position than we are now because we wouldn’t owe a QB any money. If he was good which I believe he would have done well in this offense then you have a QB for the next few years. 
 

The TB decision was just dumb. 

I’ve watched quite a few. There are flashes of his old self but they are becoming more and more far and few between, there are also some big issues that have nothing to do with his weapons. 
 

I already stated best scenario would’ve been to let him play out his last year and not owe any QB money...not sure what the point of saying that is.

But resign him for a few years? Because he’s capable of being a good QB? Nah. He’s not Brady, Brees or Rodgers. I’d rather take the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, Dolphin, Cardinals approach and draft the future than cling on to ‘capable of being good’ to play with this new coach, scheme, and GM. That’s the smart move.

[GOAT]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't even remember what your bad thread was. I just find it funny you're still mad weeks later. That's serious butthurt.

not butthurt my G, just like to call people out who abuse authority ya know? it is 2020.

I'll refresh your memory even though I'm sure you remember exactly what I'm talking about. 

I posed the question "would the panthers give Cam's #1 jersey to Zach Wilson if we drafted him?". Zach Wilson seems to be a favorite pick for us, and the question of Cam's relationship is still a hot topic and will be for years to come. Just later that evening, my speculation made it to Twitter where the owner of this forum was discussing the ensuing controversy. My thread was locked after 3 comments because you felt that "it would cause a poo storm".

Fast forward to this thread, I find it funny that a similar controversial / speculative thread was not locked - that is sure to cause a "poo storm". Is it perhaps because of the user that posted it's seniority? I'd love for you to break down the differences that allowed this thread to remain open vs mine.

I'm all about these sort of discussions, and so is pretty much every single user on here - including the dude that runs the show.

I'm sorry, but ever since I was kid in grade school - I have a thirst to call out the volunteer hall monitors of the world for abusing power.

 

[PhillyB]

yeah sorry @LinvilleGorge that was lame as hell

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

How many Patriots games have you watched this year? I’ve watched every snap. He’s still capable of being a good QB. He still has his faults but he has literally nothing around him on offense. Worst skill position group than some colleges and that’s not an exaggeration. 
 

Keeping Cam had nothing to do with him being washed or not. It was a win/win situation. If he’s washed we’re in a better position than we are now because we wouldn’t owe a QB any money. If he was good which I believe he would have done well in this offense then you have a QB for the next few years. 
 

The TB decision was just dumb. 

No he is not.  Dude his arm is shot.  Completely.  He is throwing at some weird angle and passes over 10 yards are a struggle add to the fact that he cannot run anymore (he hasnt gone over 50 yards in almost 2 months) then he is a liability.  There is no way you can watch him last sunday and not think he is kaput.  It sucks because we did it to him

[AceBoogie]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

No he is not.  Dude his arm is shot.  Completely.  He is throwing at some weird angle and passes over 10 yards are a struggle add to the fact that he cannot run anymore (he hasnt gone over 50 yards in almost 2 months) then he is a liability.  There is no way you can watch him last sunday and not think he is kaput.  It sucks because we did it to him

This how I know you don’t watch games. Cam’s intermediate to deep passing game has been phenomenal this year. If you aren’t watching the games please don’t reply to my posts. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, GOAT said:

not butthurt my G, just like to call people out who abuse authority ya know? it is 2020.

I'll refresh your memory even though I'm sure you remember exactly what I'm talking about. 

I posed the question "would the panthers give Cam's #1 jersey to Zach Wilson if we drafted him?". Zach Wilson seems to be a favorite pick for us, and the question of Cam's relationship is still a hot topic and will be for years to come. Just later that evening, my speculation made it to Twitter where the owner of this forum was discussing the ensuing controversy. My thread was locked after 3 comments because you felt that "it would cause a poo storm".

Fast forward to this thread, I find it funny that a similar controversial / speculative thread was not locked - that is sure to cause a "poo storm". Is it perhaps because of the user that posted it's seniority? I'd love for you to break down the differences that allowed this thread to remain open vs mine.

I'm all about these sort of discussions, and so is pretty much every single user on here - including the dude that runs the show.

I'm sorry, but ever since I was kid in grade school - I have a thirst to call out the volunteer hall monitors of the world for abusing power.

 

Fight the man!!! LOL!

Repost the thread if you want but when you start getting attacked don't bother reporting the posts.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

This how I know you don’t watch games. Cam’s intermediate to deep passing game has been phenomenal this year. If you aren’t watching the games please don’t reply to my posts. 

You are high dude, he threw 4 passes in the friggin dirt on Sunday.  4.  His arm is shot.  He now has some weird throwing motion.  Its sad but its true

[Mistuh Jones]

1 hour ago, OneBadCat said:

Cam with Moore/Anderson/CMC/David/Samuel would have been nice to see.

Funny that we cut Cam in the same offseason when we finally fill the holes he needed help with for years.

If TB is 0/7 on game winning drives I believe Cam would probably win at least 3-4 of those just on big balls swag alone.

This has been keeping me up at night all season. The irony is a yard thick 

[KSpan]

34 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Is that a preferable outcome to the season in your eyes, compared to where we are currently headed (most likely 4-12)?  An absolute best case of 10-6 but likely somewhere between 4-12 and 10-6?

To not have Teddy and that salary on the roster yes, I believe it would be. Is it a better case vs having a high draft pick in this upcoming draft? I can't say.

I can say that while I feel an upgrade at QB is absolutely needed now and that Cam is declining (can still be a good QB but 2015 is a long time ago) I'm fairly agnostic as to how the upgrade is done. Getting a great young QB on a rookie contract is a common formula for success but I don't believe that's the only way to improve (see Ryan Tannehill). The staff and FO are paid to make those types of decisions and given the money thrown at Rhule and now a new GM I have some belief that they'll figure it out.

[GOAT]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Fight the man!!! LOL!

Repost the thread if you want but when you start getting attacked don't bother reporting the posts.

[Rocky Davis]

22 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You are high dude, he threw 4 passes in the friggin dirt on Sunday.  4.  His arm is shot.  He now has some weird throwing motion.  Its sad but its true

He did throw some ugly passes on Sunday.  I will say though his long ball this year has looked much better than those short throws McDaniels has him throwing.  Young Cam would blast short throws at 150 mph and the receivers couldn't catch them, injured Cam throws them like they are lawn darts.