Verge's positional rankings 1.0

[Verge]

Here is my pre workouts positional rankings, this is based on my own research. 

QB:
1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE
2. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
3. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 
4. Justin Fields, QB, OHST
5. Mac Jones, QB, ALA

RB:
1. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE
2. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 
3. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM
4. Kylin Hill, RB, MSST
5. Chuba Hubbard, RB, OKST

WR:
1. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU
2. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 
3. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA
4. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB/Whatever, FLO
5. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU

TE:
1. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO 
2. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 
3. Pat Freiermuth, TE, PEN
4. Hunter Long, TE, BC
5. Matt Bushman, TE, BYU 

OT: 
1. Penei Sewell, T, ORE
2. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC 
3. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW 
4. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT 
5. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA

IOL:
1. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC
2. Trey Smith, G, TEN 
3. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW
4. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST
5. Quinn Meinerz, G, WISWW


Edge rusher: 
1. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 
2. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
3. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF
4. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL
5. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO

Interior Dline:
1. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH
2. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA
3. Jay Tufele, DT, USC
4. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST
5. Jared Goldwire, DT, LOU

LB: 
1. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST
2. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND
3. Dylan Moses, ILB, ALA
4. JaCoby Steves, OLB, LSU 
5. Chazz Surratt, ILB/OLB, NC 

CB: 
1. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA
2. Caleb Farley, CB, VT
3. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC
4. Shaun Wade, CB, OHST
5. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO

S: 
1. Jevon Holland, S, ORE
2. Paris Ford, S, PITT
3. Richie Grant, S, CF
4. Caden Sterns, S, TX 
5. Hamsah Nasirrildeen, S, FST

[MHS831]

Thanks for this, Verge.  A request: What I would like to see is the depth of the draft at each position--just an overview--For example, we seem to have depth at positions of need.

A few points: 

• Hard to pass on the top G and second best LT on the board (Vera-Tucker).  Slater has the same basic abilities.  Me likey.  That tells me that we are talking maulers with LT athleticism.  Your ratings are consistent with my feelings--I put him at T. 
• You have to like Surratt's versatility at LB.  Browning is another in that mold,and I am very high on Ohio St LB Werner.
• There are CBs and CB/S hybrids later in the draft. I see us liking those.
• I am not a fan of the TE crop.  I would have "Baby Gronk" Frieirmuth at 2 and Long at 3--but it depends on what you are looking for at the position.
• You see Leatherwood as a pure T and not a T/G?  I tend to agree, but when I watched, he dominated at T.  Had a down 2020 compared to 2019, but moving to G is an overreaction.
• I was very surprised NOT to see Creed Humphries in the IOL top 5.  Would love to hear thinking on that.  I would probably move Vera-Tucker and Slater to T and have Center Humphries and possibly G-C Myers in the top 5.   I do like Trey Smith a lot--high character, from what I hear.

Thanks for these--I am not far off.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 12, 2021 by MHS831

[FakePlasticTrees]

My sense is that Travis Etienne is overrated and may regret returning to Clemson this season.

[Pup McBarky]

Surprised at some things:

1. Javonte Williams isn't a top 5 RB?

2. Shaun Wade #4 CB? I thought both Erik Stokes and Asante Samuel Jr. were better. Are you concerned about Samuel's size?

3. No Trevon Moehrig or Andre Cisco in top 5 S?

4. Surprised you have Leatherwood over Mayfield at T.

5. No Centers?

[LinvilleGorge]

I can't find much to disagree with other than Etienne, but then again he's pretty much the consensus #1 RB. I just see zero special traits and a "good" college RB who benefitted greatly from playing in an elite college offense. I think he's a JAG in the NFL but we'll see.

[Verge]

For the people asking about centers, my dumbass completely forgot to add them, I will update them later.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Speaking of centers, I'm curious how much Humphrey being left handed might impact his stock. I honestly can't recall a left handed center right off the top of my head.

[Pup McBarky]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Speaking of centers, I'm curious how much Humphrey being left handed might impact his stock. I honestly can't recall a left handed center right off the top of my head.

Kevin Mawae, one of the best ever, broke a couple fingers on his right hand and practiced and learned how to use his left to snap the ball, both with QB under center and in shotgun. He did okay. Other than that little tidbit, I'm not aware of any southpaw centers.

[Icege]

1 hour ago, Verge said:

For the people asking about centers, my dumbass completely forgot to add them, I will update them later.

 

Very interested to see this group as I've been paying a lot of attention to them. Will be interesting seeing another take

[jayflip]

There’s a player named Chuba Hubbard

 

yes plz

[Ricky Spanish]

Verge and I have the same ranking for QBs.

Dope. 

[TheRumGone]

Anyone else worried about Wilson’s frame? 6’3” 209 lbs? That’s bridgewater size. Other than that Wilson has the tools to be a great nfl qb. 

[Pup McBarky]

47 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Anyone else worried about Wilson’s frame? 6’3” 209 lbs? That’s bridgewater size. Other than that Wilson has the tools to be a great nfl qb. 

Not at all. Since he'll likely be playing against us, I look forward to Jeremy Chinn breaking him into smaller pieces.

[Madwolf]

52 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Anyone else worried about Wilson’s frame? 6’3” 209 lbs? That’s bridgewater size. Other than that Wilson has the tools to be a great nfl qb. 

I don't think that's particularly small for a QB in the NFL. Pretty sure Cousins is right at that size, and Matt Ryan is close to it. 

With rookies I don't worry as much either because they'll add a little size for the NFL as well.