Houston will let Watson rot

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Anything is possible at this point, but it is clear the owner of the Texan's is going to do whatever he choses to do regardless of Watson's opinion or the team's best interests. 

I'm old enough to remember when Al Davis kept Marcus Allen (one of the greatest talents of his day) on the bench for an entire season.  Owners/Billionaires can be rather obstinate when they choose to be.

[The Lobo]

Do you think we stay at 8 and take BPA or trade back in the first? What if the panthers brass want to accumulate picks and build the team and then after the draft focus on trading for Watson? 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Another aspect of this situation to keep in mind is that all the owners have a vested interest in the outcome of this standoff.  As it is, owners still call the tune players dance to when it comes to contracts.  The owner/player dynamic might significantly change if Watson comes out of this smelling like a rose.

Edited February 26, 2021 by NanuqoftheNorth

[Verge]

14 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

You think that will change?

I can't imagine them being that petty. 

[rippadonn]

The no trade clause is a precursor to players forcing a trade to...  because any type of mismanagement or mutual departing of ways. Houston signed THAT and knows exactly what it means.

If you haven't heard Deshauns side of the story I wouldn't be so pro team pro NFL establishment hierarchy. A lot lead to his present position. To him it's now or never. He gave them some great years and performances.

Houstons stance only makes his case more clear, unless its a smokescreen to really talk to a particular team in waiting. Houston should focus on FUTURE player relaionships.

[rippadonn]

Being the only NFC team on his list helps too. They need to ship him off and not see him for a while.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Verge said:

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

You think that will change?

I can't imagine them being that petty. 

It's simply business, nothing petty about it.

The player is one of the 2 best franchise QB's in the NFL when viewed through a 10yr lens, a team cannot afford to let that sort of talent go to another team...

...not to mention doing so would be a disservice to the entire NFL in terms of setting precedent --- this is the time to draw a line in the sand.

 

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

It's simply business, nothing petty about it.

The player is one of the 2 best franchise QB's in the NFL when viewed through a 10yr lens, a team cannot afford to let that sort of talent go to another team...

...not to mention doing so would be a disservice to the entire NFL in terms of setting precedent --- this is the time to draw a line in the sand.

there's no disservice here and this isn't a precedent.  players have asked for trades and gotten them before.  hell this isn't even the first player THIS YEAR to say he doesn't want to play for the Texans anymore.

there's no reason for Houston to torpedo its new GM and new HC just to try to force a millionaire to play when he refuses to, not when they could gain huge capital from any of a number of teams for shipping him off.

its just funny given how Watt was treated... 

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, rippadonn said:

The no trade clause is a precursor to players forcing a trade to...  because any type of mismanagement or mutual departing of ways. Houston signed THAT and knows exactly what it means.

If you haven't heard Deshauns side of the story I wouldn't be so pro team pro NFL establishment hierarchy. A lot lead to his present position. To him it's now or never. He gave them some great years and performances.

Houstons stance only makes his case more clear, unless its a smokescreen to really talk to a particular team in waiting. Houston should focus on FUTURE player relaionships.

yeah, this isn't just a player waking up one morning and deciding he regrets his contract and wants to go elsewhere.  there is a lot more to this situation than that.

imo this isn't really a precedent-setting situation unless Houston's owner makes it so.  Trying to force a superstar to play for a team he refuses to will create a much bigger situation than if they just trade a huge fuging bounty for him and come out with a whole new set of options to build their team for the future.  We're talking about a team that is entering a full rebuild with a new coach and new GM... it isn't surprising that the franchise players want a chance to chase their dreams elsewhere.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

18 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

yeah, this isn't just a player waking up one morning and deciding he regrets his contract and wants to go elsewhere.  there is a lot more to this situation than that.

imo this isn't really a precedent-setting situation unless Houston's owner makes it so.  Trying to force a superstar to play for a team he refuses to will create a much bigger situation than if they just trade a huge fuging bounty for him and come out with a whole new set of options to build their team for the future.  We're talking about a team that is entering a full rebuild with a new coach and new GM... it isn't surprising that the franchise players want a chance to chase their dreams elsewhere.

No one forced him to sign a four year extension with 111M guarenteed...  

[PootieNunu]

28 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

there's no disservice here and this isn't a precedent.  players have asked for trades and gotten them before.  hell this isn't even the first player THIS YEAR to say he doesn't want to play for the Texans anymore.

there's no reason for Houston to torpedo its new GM and new HC just to try to force a millionaire to play when he refuses to, not when they could gain huge capital from any of a number of teams for shipping him off.

its just funny given how Watt was treated... 

Watt and Watson are two different situations.

JJ was probably getting released whether he asked for it or not. He got out in front of it to save face. 

Edited February 27, 2021 by PootieNunu

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Verge said:

I can't imagine them being that petty. 

I can imagine McNair being that egotistical.

[mav1234]

23 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

No one forced him to sign a four year extension with 111M guarenteed...  

And no one is forcing the Texans to keep him, either.  Contracts don't mean poo in sports.  Teams drop players all the time. Trade players. Cut them. Etc...  I don't really care that he has a contract; he doesn't want to be there, and it is to their benefit to find a way to handle that.

Plus the situation has changed in strange directions since then.

[Shocker]

I am getting pretty tired of the Watson trade stuff.  Lets continue the rebuilding and pass on this soapbox.

We are flat out not in a good position to make this trade.

Edited February 27, 2021 by Shocker