Deshaun Allegations detailed (not good)

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Zod said:

The way he apologized immediately over text in a very polite way to that one girl makes me think yeah, he crossed the line somehow but also tells me he isn't the type of guy to force oral sex on a woman. Those types of people don't apologize. 

Unless the apology is just ass covering.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Was it not a poor decision to proceed with the session? To not report it right away? Both can be true. 

Yes, if true is was.  But that doesn't negate what happened.  

[Monrowed]

Just now, Zod said:

The way he apologized immediately over text in a very polite way to that one girl makes me think yeah, he crossed the line somehow but also tells me he isn't the type of guy to force oral sex on a woman. Those types of people don't apologize. 

[stirs]

Did ya'll need massages when you were 25?

If so, why?

[AceBoogie]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I'm sure if the juice were your wife or daughter you would think differently.

I have an ex wife. A daughter and a girlfriend. I’d like to think I’d raise my daughter well enough that she doesn’t put herself in those situations. She’s too young for dating but when she gets to that age she will understand the power in the word no. 

[Bronn]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I still can't believe people are talking about the idea og the Texans doing this to get him to play for them.

"We've trashed your reputation and possibly ruined your career. Now play for us!" Yeah, good strategy

If they had wanted to blackmail him, they would have threatened to release all this stuff behind the scenes. If they had wanted to hurt him, they would have gone ahead and traded him for the biggest trade deal they could get, then let out what happened.

These scenarios some people are suggesting would be like someone releasing embarrassing photographs of a public figure, then coming to them afterward and saying "now pay me not to publish those".

It isn't about getting him to play for them. Duh. I don't think many people with a brain are taking that angle or arguing that.

If there is any conspiracy involved on the part of Houston, it is about ruining him for holding them hostage and attempting to force their hand.

"I won't play for Houston anymore. Trade me."

"We're not trading you. Sit out the season then."

"Okay sounds good. I'll do it again and again until you trade me, and trade me somewhere I want to go."

"Okay then we'll make it hard for you to ever play football for anyone again."

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Was it not a poor decision to proceed with the session? To not report it right away? Both can be true. 

Sexual harassment and assault victims often wait to report.  As to proceeding with the session, we don't know the timing of the encounters.  There is the one case where the masseuse saw him a second time, but in all the others we have no idea on how the situations were handled in the moment.

[AceBoogie]

4 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Alternative being just taking whatever we want ?

Y’all use the word take far too literally. 

[PootieNunu]

1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

Y’all use the word take far too literally. 

You used it in that matter. The juice to take what you want basically. 

[Bronn]

5 minutes ago, Zod said:

The way he apologized immediately over text in a very polite way to that one girl makes me think yeah, he crossed the line somehow but also tells me he isn't the type of guy to force oral sex on a woman. Those types of people don't apologize. 

How do you know he didn't ask for glute work and then accidentally fart in her face when she was doing the requested work?

What you're taking out of the context says more about you than it does Deshaun Watson.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I have an ex wife. A daughter and a girlfriend. I’d like to think I’d raise my daughter well enough that she doesn’t put herself in those situations. She’s too young for dating but when she gets to that age she will understand the power in the word no. 

So if one of them came to you with one of the situations your first reaction would be that she was making this up for fame or money?

Edited March 19, 2021 by Jon Snow

[Kuhndog94]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I have an ex wife. A daughter and a girlfriend. I’d like to think I’d raise my daughter well enough that she doesn’t put herself in those situations. She’s too young for dating but when she gets to that age she will understand the power in the word no. 

Will she understand that the word no doesn't magically stop sexual assault?

[Zod]

I just get the feeling the truth is in the middle somewhere. Was he less than appropriate with some and should he pay them for it? Yeah probably. Did he rape anyone? I find that very hard to believe. Opportunist lawyer taking some truth and using it to make much bigger and false implications in a money grab.

[Kuhndog94]

2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I have an ex wife. A daughter and a girlfriend. I’d like to think I’d raise my daughter well enough that she doesn’t put herself in those situations. She’s too young for dating but when she gets to that age she will understand the power in the word no. 

Will she understand that the word no doesn't magically stop sexual assault?