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Don"t Expect Carolina to Trade Up for a QB.

chknwing

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11 minutes ago, t96 said:

Watch us luck into a Wilson caliber QB in the 2nd or 3rd round... We deserve something like that to happen to our franchise.

We literally had Cam Newton and wasted him and maybe ruined his career for failing to build around him. What are you talking about we deserve a good QB. QB purgatory is exactly what we deserve.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I didn't necessarily expect us to be active in free agency either.

Ya never know.

You call what we've been doing in free agency being "active"? 

Signing a bunch of depth and one marquee "guy" on a one year prove it deal isn't exactly earth shattering. We do this pretty much every year.

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2 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

We literally had Cam Newton and wasted him and maybe ruined his career for failing to build around him. What are you talking about we deserve a good QB. QB purgatory is exactly what we deserve.

^^^Cautionary Tale:  Drafting first round QBs doesn't ensure Super Bowl victories.  3 winning seasons out of 9.

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2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

^^^Cautionary Tale:  Drafting first round QBs doesn't ensure Super Bowl victories.  3 winning seasons out of 9.

Yeah, because you surrounded said QB without a single good receiver and for like, the last six years of his career no one good to protect his blindside. We have talked this to death so there's no point in addressing it again. But Cam was absolutely elite and we ran him into the ground. We had an elite franchise QB and failed him, which is one reason I fail to get too worked up about where we currently find ourselves.

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The Panthers history with quarterbacks is...complicated, starting at the very beginning.

Story was that Bill Polian, Mike Mccormack, Dom Capers and the Panthers personnel people had a plan built around drafting Kerry Collins. But when draft day came around, the war room suddenly got word that the Houston Oilers had flipped the script and were taking Collins. Polian said everyone basically panicked because they thought their schemes were about to get ruined and they'd have to go with Plan B.

Turned out to be fake though. The Oilers went in another direction and the Panthers landed Collins.

Good thing, because it sure would have been lousy to have missed out on Kerry Collins and had to settle for Steve McNair instead.

(whew, sure dodged that one, right?)

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19 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

We literally had Cam Newton and wasted him and maybe ruined his career for failing to build around him. What are you talking about we deserve a good QB. QB purgatory is exactly what we deserve.

Honestly not wrong.

Everyone who wants to know what are team is gonna look like for the next couple of years, look at the Bears the past few years to see.

 

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9 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

We’ll be taking best players available.  Either Parsons or Sewell if Fields or Lance not available.

Hell no to Parsons. Awful positional value and the details that came out about what he did at Penn State in terms of hazing are absolutely disgusting. Don't tell me poo about building a strong, winning culture and then go out and draft guys like Parsons.

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43 minutes ago, chknwing said:

Fitt has already stated that sometimes you go through multiple qbs until you find one that fits.  Trading away years of draft capital doesnt fit that statement.  He may roll the dice on a qb at 8 but hes not stupid enough to gamble the teams future on a ?.  The draft will shake a few vet qbs from the tree.  Fitt will take one of those and keep building the rest of the tesm.

What teams say and what teams do are not the same.

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