The less they know the better.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, chknwing said:

Drafting a qb at 8 will derail any hope you had in restoring Darnold.  He just left a franchise that gave up on him a a few years, drafting a qb at 8 will show Carolina has no faith and giving up on him in a few weeks before he has a chance to prove himself.  He will go through the offseason with zero confidence and thats not what you want in a franchise qb.

If his confidence is that fragile, he really had no future in the NFL whatsoever.

[Aussie Tank]

We’re moving back to the mid teens my fortune cookie said so 

[CanePantherHornet]

Sam Darnold is at the least an equal prospect to Justin Fields, Trey Lance, and Mac Jones. He's also only ONE year older than Fields and Jones. If they're rolling the dice on a guy with obvious flaws then I'm glad it's with a 2nd rounder instead of a 1st. 

[GOAT]

1. Pitts

2. Sewell

3. Trade down

4. Slater

[LinvilleGorge]

I absolutely don't think QB is off the board at #8, I just think it's unlikely anyone we value at that spot at QB will be there hence the Darnold trade.

[LinvilleGorge]

19 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

Sam Darnold is at the least an equal prospect to Justin Fields, Trey Lance, and Mac Jones. 

Yeah, based on what the Niners traded to get one of those guys and what we traded to get Darnold... I think that hypothesis has already been disproven.

[onmyown]

If something weird happens and a top qb falls (unlikely) I really don’t care about Darnold’s feelings and the Panthers better draft him. 

Darnold can feel bad or put in the time to legitimately compete with new competition. I think he’ll do the latter.

Can’t expect to be in top 10 every draft and Rhule already said he doesn’t believe in being ‘fair’ as a coach, which I loved.

That said I doubt anyone worth the risk will fall. And no, that’s not Lance or Jones. Basically Fields.

[kungfoodude]

40 minutes ago, CanePantherHornet said:

Sam Darnold is at the least an equal prospect to Justin Fields, Trey Lance, and Mac Jones. He's also only ONE year older than Fields and Jones. If they're rolling the dice on a guy with obvious flaws then I'm glad it's with a 2nd rounder instead of a 1st. 

Well, Darnold's flaws are long proven in the NFL. So is a known flawed QB better than an unknown flawed QB?

[Khyber53]

6 hours ago, chknwing said:

Drafting a qb at 8 will derail any hope you had in restoring Darnold.  He just left a franchise that gave up on him a a few years, drafting a qb at 8 will show Carolina has no faith and giving up on him in a few weeks before he has a chance to prove himself.  He will go through the offseason with zero confidence and thats not what you want in a franchise qb.

I'm not sure that's necessarily the case. I think what you want in a franchise QB is someone who will outplay, outwork, outstudy, outcompete and outshine whoever is in their way. It's not a place for tender feelings and being unable to compete.

Rhule came in and showed Cam the door before that fan favorite ever saw the field again under the new regime. We ate $2 million in dead cap then and if Darnold ends up sitting on the bench for $4.77 million this year, we aren't out anything.

The challenge to Darnold is to be THE guy in that scenario. Make the other guy sit on the bench by using everything you've learned in three seasons in the NFL and don't look back. Winners compete and win.

History is showing us that Rhule doesn't have time to coddle a QB, no matter how tender the ego is. And he has shown no signs otherwise.

[jayboogieman]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

History is showing us that Rhule doesn't have time to coddle a QB, no matter how tender the ego is. And he has shown no signs otherwise.

Does Rhule have time to waste a first round pick and draft a QB only to let him sit a year? If Rhule doesn't have time to boost Darnold's confidence or "coddle his feelings", he doesn't have time to let a guy sit for a year. If the Panthers were in a better place, I would have no problem taking a QB and letting him sit if needed. But since the team is still in a bad spot, I would rather draft a player that can play now. That could be an LT, which is more than needed, an edge rusher, a DT, a guard, a center, a CB, safety, or WR. I'm not wild on the idea of drafting a linebacker this highly.

And I'll be glad when the draft gets here and is over. 

Edited April 13, 2021 by jayboogieman
added another thought

[bythenbrs]

5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, Darnold's flaws are long proven in the NFL. So is a known flawed QB better than an unknown flawed QB?

Strangely, yes, assuming you meant a QB draft choice with unknown flaws.  

[Wolfcop]

We will see what Darnold's flaws are. There are a lot of people who think he will do well with a better supporting cast/coaches. 

[kungfoodude]

5 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

Strangely, yes, assuming you meant a QB draft choice with unknown flaws.  

I would rather gamble on the unknown. Darnold is mostly a known at this point.

I am 100% fine hedging that bet by taking a QB at 8, if one of the top 4 is available.

[Aussie Tank]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, based on what the Niners traded to get one of those guys and what we traded to get Darnold... I think that hypothesis has already been disproven.

How? Teams trade up for poo QBs all the time.