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The Athletic looks at Darnold and Wentz

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I would rather have traded what we did for Darnold than what they did for Wentz. Wentz looks shot. Darnold looks mentally frazzled. You can't fix shot. Maybe we can and maybe we can't fix frazzled but I'd rather have Darnold at his age, trade compensation, and financial commitment than Wentz at his age, trade compensation, and financial commitment. No doubt about it. If they're both mistakes, our mistake stings a lot less.

When you have no support system, you can get pretty damn frazzled. Sometimes all you need is just to know you have some help if you need it and it's not all up to you to fix it. Closest thing I can think to compare it to is 1st couple days cooking in a restaurant vs being there a year. 10 tickets at once and you might panic a little on your first couple days, a year later, and it's "hold my beer". 

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26 minutes ago, CRA said:

you didn't feel good at anytime when we had Cam and Luke? 

We never achieved back-to-back winning seasons.

I always felt we had a handful of very good players, surrounded by dross with a poor HC and GM without a plan. 

The 2015 SB run we caught lightning in a bottle. If we were a good franchise we'd have built on that - instead we've been pretty terrible since as injuries caught up with those handful of star players. 

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28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Say what? You didn't feel good in 2015 when we were headed to the Super Bowl with a young MVP QB and a great defense? This is just a bizarre comment.

How'd that work out for us?

Or was it, as I thought at the time, a flash in the pan season?

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The article makes a lot of sense in explaining Darnold's mentality playing on that Jets team. When you have Breshad Perriman and Chris Hogan as your starting WRs and the other supporting casts around him you probably feel a sense of weighted pressure to perform above what that team is capable of. But now he's got the weapons he just needs to execute the game plan and not feel like he has to play hero ball in order for the team to win.

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1 minute ago, dpm0409 said:

Still felt damn good.  Just saying.

Yeah the season felt good and was fun, but I didn't sit there thinking "this is the turning point for the franchise!". I thought "wow our drafting has been spotty af, just enjoy this while it lasts cos it's unsustainable". 

 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think if you can't get excited about that season you're never gonna get excited.

This is all way OT from the thread, but I'll just finish with: I enjoyed that season. I was extremely disappointed we couldn't beat the corpse of Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl. We never recovered from that as a franchise.

That team relied heavily on a handful of star players. It was unsustainable. Yes, it's only one season (and two offseasons), but Rhule's team last year was night and day to anything Rivera has fielded. They looked tough, physical, disciplined and amounted to far more than the sum of their parts. The injection of talent is like nothing we've seen around these part since Siefert was here. 

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8 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

How'd that work out for us?

Or was it, as I thought at the time, a flash in the pan season?

Well, we did win 3 straight NFCS titles going into that Super Bowl.... 

without knowing the future, that seemed like a much more optimistic window of time than present day. 

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It kind of makes it sound like he was their 3rd option (mentioned Stafford and Watson couldn’t materialize) and a bit of an afterthought to me. Don’t get me wrong he looks the part, but they seemed caught off guard almost and his tape while looking at another player’s tape. I mean he was a top 5 pick and a starter for three years. I would think someone on this staff would have known about his ability considering their expressed need of moving on from Teddy. I agree with most people on here that’s it all mental with him and he seems very coachable.

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