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16 minutes ago, SBBlue said:


Rayshawn Slater PFF 71.3
Christian Darrisaw core muscle surgery
Alex Leatherwood PFF 34.6
AVT PFF 62.5
Tevin Jenkins back surgery
 

AVT's score is clearly ass as PFF for some reason has been in absolute love with the Jets line which is one of the worst in the  league in pressures, hits, and sacks and I personally saw Derrick Brown eat AVT's lunch over and over.

because AVT's 3 game grade is totally based on just his snaps against Brown?

Speaking of those times DB ate his lunch, did some of them happen to be pass plays?  Have you actually looked at AVT's pass block grade?  I'll save you the trouble, its atrocious.

Also I don't get this idea that PFF is in love with certain teams?  What does it benefit them?  Why would they want to hold certain players to a different standard?  Why would they want to be counterproductive to the one thing they are trying to do which is grading the entire league to a uniform standard.  We might not agree with their standard but its what their entire business model is based off of.

 

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13 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

because AVT's 3 game grade is totally based on just his snaps against Brown?

Speaking of those times DB ate his lunch, did some of them happen to be pass plays?  Have you actually looked at AVT's pass block grade?  I'll save you the trouble, its atrocious.

Also I don't get this idea that PFF is in love with certain teams?  What does it benefit them?  Why would they want to hold certain players to a different standard?  Why would they want to be counterproductive to the one thing they are trying to do which is grading the entire league to a uniform standard.  We might not agree with their standard but its what their entire business model is based off of.

 

Wow.  You're pretty sensitive about PFF.  You work for them or something?  You follow me around and any time I criticize them, there you are.

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58 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

The fact that Darnold can be even halfway competent with this o line is a miracle 

That's exactly the way I've felt as this early season has unfolded. The bright side of this disaster is that we can imagine what Darnold is really capable of once we get the line sorted.

I mean, what's his ceiling?!?

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That's not one game.  That's thru three games.  Van Roten's score is currently 53.9 on pff.

Meanwhile the Jets have the HIGHEST PRESSURE% in the the league and lead the league in sacks with FIFTEEN.  Their ybc is mediocre at 2.6 so the run blocking is NOWHERE near where it needs to be to raise the overall score.  They're 28th in rushing yards and 29th in rushing attempts.  So how can the run grade raise their overall grade so much when they aren't running the ball and when they finally do, its nothing special.

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Did I mention that Wilson has been sacked 15 times?  At that rate, Wilson will be sacked 85 times this season.

So please explain to me @AU-panther,  how does the Jets entire line score above 50 when they so clearly TOTALLY suck on the field in STATS and via the eye test?

 

 

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33 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

That's not one game.  That's thru three games.  Van Roten's score is currently 53.9 on pff.

Meanwhile the Jets have the HIGHEST PRESSURE% in the the league and lead the league in sacks with FIFTEEN.  Their ybc is mediocre at 2.6 so the run blocking is NOWHERE near where it needs to be to raise the overall score.  They're 28th in rushing yards and 29th in rushing attempts.  So how can the run grade raise their overall grade so much when they aren't running the ball and when they finally do, its nothing special.

2021 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com


Did I mention that Wilson has been sacked 15 times?  At that rate, Wilson will be sacked 85 times this season.

So please explain to me @AU-panther,  how does the Jets entire line score above 50 when they so clearly TOTALLY suck on the field in STATS and via the eye test?

 

 

This is exactly why PFF is an okay place to look at something you don't know (like the Jets line rankings), but then you have to use some common sense to realize these are just dorks throwing out numbers based on their subjective grading system. 

There was a game in 2017 or 2018 where Cam outplayed Brees in every conceivable stat and measurable metric, but PFF gave Brees a way higher grade based on some reasoning like "expected catches" and goofy things that aren't tangible and are extremely subjective. That's when I stopped relying on their scores for anything meaningful. 

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