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Orlovsky on Darnold

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Just now, glenwo2 said:

Or a change in position.

Since he likes to run a lot, maybe a TE or RB?   I mean...he is still a very good athlete so he might be able to do it (plus he won't be throwing any INTs so that's always a plus.  lol )

I'm all for trying to get something out of him that doesn't require him deciding who to throw the ball to.

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think 89 is the fanbases collective favorite of all time.  

I don’t think he was actually the best player to put on pads here.  Top 3.  Nor the most impactful.  Top 2. 

Cam Newton isn't a hof qb.

He wasn't ever a top 5 qb in the league 

He also wasn't even the best of his generation. 

He was a very good player for us but that's it.

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1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:

I believe that Sam believes(and rightly so) that he would get sacked the moment he slows down his drop back.

Basically, he's ready to run from the moment the ball is snapped and that's not conducive to Good QB'ing.

The only question now is not *are* you related to Darnold, only how closely.

Parent?  Sibling?  Cousin?

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11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

But let me ask you :  What team out there would even WANT him at this point to even be a backup?

I think he's on a one-way trip out of the league entirely at this rate unless he changes positions or something 'cause being NFL QB may be a bit too much for him to handle apparently.

 I think it was reasonable and I endorsed us doing the same that just happened with Trubisky.  Throw him on a roster for a couple years and tinker with him and see…

but making Sam the dude was always crazy.   And frankly, Rhule doesn’t have defense for Sam and the way it went.   If you were even thinking of starting him you had to go get legit comp from day 1.

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1 hour ago, AggieLean said:

Sam is everything that fans tried to say our last real QB was; inaccurate and doesn’t have it between the ears. 
 

I hope we find another franchise QB soon. 

Completely agreed.. I stand on this with you until proven otherwise. Sam may need time to figure it out but.... You aint a rookie bruh. Cam found a QB coach before he even entered the league, after awhile I give no fugs that he didn't have a QB coach, find a way. 

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Sam is what we deserved after killing Cam.

I agree but don't.....no team deserves that from what we've seen so far. Nobody..

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25 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Cam Newton isn't a hof qb.

He wasn't ever a top 5 qb in the league 

He also wasn't even the best of his generation. 

He was a very good player for us but that's it.

Is there anyone in here saying he was a HoF QB or top 5? It’s always funny when individuals like you try to discredit Cam, but tried to defend Darnold, who’s a lesser QB. He is everything people like you tried to say Cam was; inaccurate and not smart. 

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1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

Is there anyone in here saying he was a HoF QB or top 5? It’s always funny when individuals like you try to discredit Cam, but tried to defend Darnold, who’s a lesser QB.

One was a starter and MVP, the other can't prove he is a good backup in year 4....

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23 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Cam Newton isn't a hof qb.

He wasn't ever a top 5 qb in the league 

He also wasn't even the best of his generation. 

He was a very good player for us but that's it.

Ok.  Didn’t say he was.  Cam was the most impactful though.   89 didn’t draw folks or make us nationally relevant to the nation like Cam.  So Cam is the most impactful.  For many reasons… his role, load and MVP on a Carolina level and then what he did for us on the national stage. 

I think Luke and Peppers were better actual football players.  89 3rd, more entertaining because of position, trash talk, and after the whistle/play antics 

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37 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Cam Newton isn't a hof qb.

He wasn't ever a top 5 qb in the league 

He also wasn't even the best of his generation. 

He was a very good player for us but that's it.

And what does this have to do with what I said? 

most impactful - Cam, 89

best football player - Pep/Luke, 89

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5 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Is there anyone in here saying he was a HoF QB or top 5? It’s always funny when individuals like you try to discredit Cam, but tried to defend Darnold, who’s a lesser QB. He is everything people like you tried to say Cam was; inaccurate and not smart. 

I never in a million years have said Sam is Cam or Jake.

I was hoping with coaching and a line he could become Steve Beurlien. 

 

I'm just tired of people making Cam out to more than he was. A very very good football player. 

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9 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

I never in a million years have said Sam is Cam or Jake.

I was hoping with coaching and a line he could become Steve Beurlien. 

 

I'm just tired of people making Cam out to more than he was. A very very good football player. 

And you got tired of folks talking about Darnold until it was evident by everyone he was trash. I seen your post. You were wrong on Darnold.

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