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17 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

The “muck” that hurt UNC for damn near a decade was exactly what you called it - muck. Complete bullshit and a false narrative driven by terrible journalists. UNC was vindicated by the NCAA. 
 

Are those national championships won by Pete The Cheat still officially recognized? I know Bush never got his Heisman back 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Carolina_academic-athletic_scandal

Deny, deny, quit making excuses, UNC should have been shut down..USC was made an example, punished by a corrupt ncaa committee of investigations, headed by Paul Dee (his legacy tarnished by the Miami scandal), also on the committee was a Domer and the Nebraska ad, a team USC had recently humiliated.

Paul Dee, Miami
NCAA Violations 2003-2011

According to news reports, from 2002 through the end of Dee's tenure, booster Nevin Shapiroprovided Miami football and basketball players with numerous benefits that violated NCAA rules including hundreds of thousands of dollars, gifts, prostitutes, access to yachts and housing, and expensive social events.[2]

After leaving Miami, Dee was chairman of the Committee on Infractions at the NCAA, the committee responsible for enforcing NCAA rules and punishing violators. He oversaw the investigation into the University of Southern California's improper relationship with Reggie Bush. Wrote Stewart Mandel of Sports Illustrated:

Dee, you may recall, was the Committee on Infractions chairman for USC's much-publicized case last summer involving former stars Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. It was Dee who, in announcing some of the stiffest penalties of the last 20 years (a two-year bowl ban and 30 docked scholarships), closed with the preachy reminder that "high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance. Dee, Miami's AD during most of the period covering Shapiro's allegations, is retired and no longer under NCAA jurisdiction. Still, it seems only fair he should spend a day at USC's Heritage Hall wearing a sandwich board with the word "Hypocrite."[7]

 

 

USC deserved sanctions, for not minding the store, by not keeping track of a players parents rental housing over 120 miles from campus. But to the extent it was, hardly.  If cheating is not knowing a player was taking money from a would be agent, to LEAVE USC, then how did Pete cheat?  
 

USC sent RBs Heisman back, the Committee never asked for it back, so RB had to return his.  If you didn’t read the report, you sound stupid commenting about it.  We were sanctioned because the school SHOULD have known about what happened with RBs parents.

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50 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Carolina_academic-athletic_scandal

Deny, deny, quit making excuses, UNC should have been shut down..USC was made an example, punished by a corrupt ncaa committee of investigations, headed by Paul Dee (his legacy tarnished by the Miami scandal), also on the committee was a Domer and the Nebraska ad, a team USC had recently humiliated.

Paul Dee, Miami
NCAA Violations 2003-2011

According to news reports, from 2002 through the end of Dee's tenure, booster Nevin Shapiroprovided Miami football and basketball players with numerous benefits that violated NCAA rules including hundreds of thousands of dollars, gifts, prostitutes, access to yachts and housing, and expensive social events.[2]

After leaving Miami, Dee was chairman of the Committee on Infractions at the NCAA, the committee responsible for enforcing NCAA rules and punishing violators. He oversaw the investigation into the University of Southern California's improper relationship with Reggie Bush. Wrote Stewart Mandel of Sports Illustrated:

Dee, you may recall, was the Committee on Infractions chairman for USC's much-publicized case last summer involving former stars Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. It was Dee who, in announcing some of the stiffest penalties of the last 20 years (a two-year bowl ban and 30 docked scholarships), closed with the preachy reminder that "high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance. Dee, Miami's AD during most of the period covering Shapiro's allegations, is retired and no longer under NCAA jurisdiction. Still, it seems only fair he should spend a day at USC's Heritage Hall wearing a sandwich board with the word "Hypocrite."[7]

 

 

USC deserved sanctions, for not minding the store, by not keeping track of a players parents rental housing over 120 miles from campus. But to the extent it was, hardly.  If cheating is not knowing a player was taking money from a would be agent, to LEAVE USC, then how did Pete cheat?  
 

USC sent RBs Heisman back, the Committee never asked for it back, so RB had to return his.  If you didn’t read the report, you sound stupid commenting about it.  We were sanctioned because the school SHOULD have known about what happened with RBs parents.

JFC. How the fug are you getting so successfully trolled by one of the lower life forms in this forum? Not to mention, you are arguing with a fan that supports a G5 level football program. WTF are you even doing?

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24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

JFC. How the fug are you getting so successfully trolled by one of the lower life forms in this forum? Not to mention, you are arguing with a fan that supports a G5 level football program. WTF are you even doing?

At this point, can’t tell your village idiot from your board wise men.

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2 hours ago, 1usctrojan said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Carolina_academic-athletic_scandal

Deny, deny, quit making excuses, UNC should have been shut down..USC was made an example, punished by a corrupt ncaa committee of investigations, headed by Paul Dee (his legacy tarnished by the Miami scandal), also on the committee was a Domer and the Nebraska ad, a team USC had recently humiliated.

Paul Dee, Miami
NCAA Violations 2003-2011

According to news reports, from 2002 through the end of Dee's tenure, booster Nevin Shapiroprovided Miami football and basketball players with numerous benefits that violated NCAA rules including hundreds of thousands of dollars, gifts, prostitutes, access to yachts and housing, and expensive social events.[2]

After leaving Miami, Dee was chairman of the Committee on Infractions at the NCAA, the committee responsible for enforcing NCAA rules and punishing violators. He oversaw the investigation into the University of Southern California's improper relationship with Reggie Bush. Wrote Stewart Mandel of Sports Illustrated:

Dee, you may recall, was the Committee on Infractions chairman for USC's much-publicized case last summer involving former stars Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. It was Dee who, in announcing some of the stiffest penalties of the last 20 years (a two-year bowl ban and 30 docked scholarships), closed with the preachy reminder that "high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance. Dee, Miami's AD during most of the period covering Shapiro's allegations, is retired and no longer under NCAA jurisdiction. Still, it seems only fair he should spend a day at USC's Heritage Hall wearing a sandwich board with the word "Hypocrite."[7]

 

 

USC deserved sanctions, for not minding the store, by not keeping track of a players parents rental housing over 120 miles from campus. But to the extent it was, hardly.  If cheating is not knowing a player was taking money from a would be agent, to LEAVE USC, then how did Pete cheat?  
 

USC sent RBs Heisman back, the Committee never asked for it back, so RB had to return his.  If you didn’t read the report, you sound stupid commenting about it.  We were sanctioned because the school SHOULD have known about what happened with RBs parents.

My mans is over here accusing people of “noT rEaDinG tHE rEPOrT” and then quoting Wikipedia. 
 

I know y’all are still bitter about Pete the Cheat breaking every rule for some championships and then bolting for a promotion to the NFL while the USC football program got hammered (and still not recovered) but do not compare what happened at UNC to what happened at USC. Apples and oranges. There were 3 different “investigations” and 3 different NOAs. All different. They originally ruled UNC clear only to “reopen” an investigation to appease an angry mob of NCState, Duke, and UK fans. 
 

some of the accusations with the assistant coach giving football players money and directing them to a financial guy (Robert Quinn, Greg Little) were legit and UNC was rightfully punished for that; along with PJ Hairston —- but again dude the class stuff just simply was not true. There were no “fake classes” or “sham classes” that gave athletes As. There were liberal studies classes that were independently taught and were easy. I took some that had no attendance and just turned in3 research papers. 
 

You still had to turn in work and I’m even willing to concede that these classes were used by everyone to help their GPAs - not much different from Mark Sanchez taking “ball room dancing” or whatever bullshit “athletes only” classes offered at schools like Standford, NC State. The poo that was going on is no different than what goes on everywhere else. 

But it doesn’t really matter what you think happened because UNC was rightfully vindicated and cleared of all wrong doing. 
 

i got no quarrel with you and couldn’t care less about USC football and honestly the poo they got busted for probably was going on everywhere else but not gonna have you on here deficating on my school and peoples degrees and insulting the integrity of one of the great institutions in the world 

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I don't think we know about Darnold yet.  But if I were a betting man, I would say that PJ is going to be the starter.  

In case you're wondering, the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback in a game is eight. That dubious record belongs to Jim Hardy of the Chicago Cardinals in 1950. Six quarterbacks have thrown seven interceptions in a game.

Against Belicheck, PJ could put himself in the record books...

 

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22 minutes ago, trueblade said:

In case you're wondering, the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback in a game is eight. That dubious record belongs to Jim Hardy of the Chicago Cardinals in 1950. Six quarterbacks have thrown seven interceptions in a game.

Against Belicheck, PJ could put himself in the record books...

 

Thankfully, we will be running the ball 60 times if he does start.

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4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

They better be or this game will get out of hand fast.  I don't care if the score is 3-0 as long as we win.

Can you imagine if we did win the game 3-0?

The Defense would be heralded as the new '85 bears or something.  lol

That would be a crazy scenario(very unlikely, though).

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5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If we don't run it at least 50 times, we're fuged.

Man, I was pretty much shouting "Run the ball..... do NOT throw it with PJ" in the last game when Sam got hurt. That one play where they did throw it with him had me so tensed up with how close to a pick it could have been.

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2 hours ago, ichigo1057 said:

Man, I was pretty much shouting "Run the ball..... do NOT throw it with PJ" in the last game when Sam got hurt. That one play where they did throw it with him had me so tensed up with how close to a pick it could have been.

Sam is an awful QB that makes bad decisions but PJ is next level reckless. He will laser it into some tight windows, whether open or not.

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