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Official Patriots at Panthers GameDay Thread

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jopie87 Grand Master

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Last year Teddy killed me because he couldn't lead an end of game drive. I didn't think it could get worse. I was wrong.

Replace Sam WITH ANY OTHER starting QB in the league and this is a playoff team. Literally any other starter from any other team would be an improvement.

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1 minute ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Again the only QB this board ever wanted was the sure thing Andrew Luck, yall were scared of literally everyone else besides maybe Joe Burrow. This place didnt even want Cam and he won MVP. Man up and take a leap, Sam Darnold looks terrible. 

TL was a want, same on Wilson. They were wants around here. 

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Rhule probably doesn't have enough time to develop himself into an NFL coach before he gets fired

That’s why I’m scared that they are going to have to go all in on a quarterback such as Watson in order to give Rhule a chance to succeed.

I’m concerned with the cost of that kind of transaction and is it in the best interest of the Panthers to pursue that.

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7 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

I'm a damned fsu fan, I have no vested interest in Sam Howell being good lol

This board, man. Terrified of investing in a QB. Sometimes you gotta spend a high draft pick on a guy and build around him with the rest of your draft picks and cap room and this place is allergic to that

It ain't even your money or draft picks lol

You really think he should be the pick?

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4 minutes ago, chbright said:

Willis is no where close to Allen at 6-1 (lol that's a lie). Willis is a smaller guy. Biiiiiig arm, but huge project. Idk if we have the staff or team for that at all.

Saw a real D at home (all mighty ole miss) and threw up 3 picks this weekend himself. Not really impressive.

Another hope it works out cause I don't see it. Right now it's all out athlete the other guys. He is a hell of one though. But as a top 20 pick no thank you.

 

I'd take Howell 100 out of 100 times and I'm not really big on Howell, ask the heels fans here. Don't think Howell is some savior with this team as it stands either.

Willis is bigger than Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray, has a stronger arm, and is no more inacc than Allen was who was WILDLY inaccurate til like a year ago. He's gonna be a high draft pick the same way Trey Lance, who took like 10 snaps total in college, was

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1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Yeah... Same. Just not worth it anymore.  He's indecisive because he knows he makes bad decisions.  He's done. It doesn't matter who else plays at QB but Rhule is at risk of losing this offense I think.

Unless he finds a way to be more decisive Sam is pretty much done in this league.  He really needs to sit on the bench (of another team) for a season.  Might eventually develop into a serviceable backup if he can get his head straight.  Other than with the Panthers, Sam most likely won't be given another chance to be a starter anytime soon (if ever).

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