Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

First Take - Cam is a Box Office Move


CPcavedweller
 Share

Recommended Posts

Do they not know that the Panthers have PSL's and are sold out every game? The ticket revenue is in hand so no, this isn't about tickets. This is about capitalizing on having a Top 5 defense, Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Anderson, our right tackle, etc. It's about having an ROI measured in wins. If Tepper wanted a losing team, he wouldn't be paying guys. 

Sure, they may pocket some cash from jersey sales but it's miniscule compared to what they pocket by WINNING.

Cam was brought here to win and Stephen A. Smith is a tool on this topic. I like him, I like his show, but he seems to firmly believe in what he is saying here and it's beyond idiotic.

Edited by CPcavedweller
  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Nobody with a job should be watching FirstTake. It’s garbage programming. 

 

Just now, rico6 said:

You like Stephen A?

Red flag.

Yea I'm out of pie but yall beat me to it.

Yall heard what TO said about Stephen A/Max and yall know its true too 🤣

 

  • Pie 2
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

TV revenue contracts are done for years in advance. Ticket sales are not going to change, thanks to PSLs and, as the OP states, there's no real "box office" advantage to signing Cam Newton. All the coin has been accounted for and every owner knows what their cut is at this point.

The signing, if you take the time to read the terms, is a half-season rental the Panthers, thanks to their cap space, were able to afford. If it doesn't work out, the roster bonus isn't paid and he's released before March 1, free to look for employment elsewhere. 

The Panthers are in a no-lose situation. It endears their fan base a little more, maybe brings back a few hold-out fans and will even have some fans believing a return to the playoffs is inevitable.  

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

they arent wrong about the box office effect at least though. Theres a reason tickets for sunday in the 500 level are selling for $200 a piece now when they were $20 two weeks ago, and I can tell you the return of RiverRaft Ron isnt the reason

That's resale. The team already made their money off the tickets. Just because some scalper can sell his game day tickets for twice as much now as they were worth last week doesn't do anything for the team's revenues.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

36 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Do they not know that the Panthers have PSL's and are sold out every game?

Best info I can find is ~61,000/62,000 seats are accounted for by ~23,000 PSL "accounts".

The stadium holds 74,867...lately the team has stopped announcing "sellouts".  Given the effects of covid that makes sense.

 

39 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

The ticket revenue is in hand so no, this isn't about tickets.

If the 61,500 number is accurate it is true that 82.1% of ticket revenue has been collected/accounted-for through the PSL program.

PSL's do trade on the secondary market and right now there are 621 PSL listing accounting for 1,570 seats on the Panthers Marketplace website.  This is down from a peak of 648/1,646 the day before Cam was signed.

There was a narrative out there that holders/owners were relinquishing their PSL's "in droves"...the numbers do not support this case.  

In 2014 Axios reported there were 1,700 PSL-linked seats available (about the same as now) and that number ballooned to 2,300 in 2015 when the team was thriving.

There will always be some PSL turnover as a results of life-changes, etc...

...but there's nothing to indicate poor team performance leads holders/owners to relinquish PSL's "in droves" --- in fact it appears to be just the opposite, when the team is doing well and PSL prices are up is when more PSL-linked seats become available.

 

58 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Sure, they may pocket some cash from jersey sales but it's miniscule compared to what they pocket by WINNING.

Exactly.

 

59 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Cam was brought here to win and Stephen A. Smith is a tool on this topic.

Spot on.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

That's resale. The team already made their money off the tickets. Just because some scalper can sell his game day tickets for twice as much now as they were worth last week doesn't do anything for the team's revenues.

You right. Sorry still drunk AF after yesterday. Got my tickets expecting to watch Chandler Jones put Sam Darnold in the hospital and within 10 minutes got to see 2 Cam TDs. Have a torn labrum Ive been dealing with and definitely made it worse jumping up after the 1st TD but definitely worth it

6E6BD5ED-94C5-4168-A422-6E8C47D8F4FE.jpeg

  • Pie 8
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, KillaCamNewton said:

You right. Sorry still drunk AF after yesterday. Got my tickets expecting to watch Chandler Jones put Sam Darnold in the hospital and within 10 minutes got to see 2 Cam TDs. Have a torn labrum Ive been dealing with and definitely made it worse jumping up after the 1st TD but definitely worth it

6E6BD5ED-94C5-4168-A422-6E8C47D8F4FE.jpeg

Speedy recovery had mine done a few years ago.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • ^I want that, but Rodriguez over KC. Don't hate KC as much at that spot, but rather take a WR with the pick we gain in that trade than in the 1st. 
    • I think there is good points in this thread to what the team needs to do. 1) Ball isn't really the issue but, he needs reigned in.  Coach and he need to realize when things aren't falling from the three and learn to play other facets of the game.  He's an amazing talent and when he's on, he's on.  But he can also shoot you out of a game.  We're lucky Miami went that way but that is too many missed threes.  He still needs to bulk up if he can, but he needs to drive more.  He's pretty good at finishing usually and hopefully the fouls come (probably not though).   2) The whole team needs to be more physical.  As others have stated, we need more bulk in our bigs.  Diabate is a hurricane of energy but cannot go against the larger centers.  I love him on the team but he should be more of a match up type guy or energy off the bench.  I think he'd be insane off the bench.  However I think the biggest issue with Diabate and Kaulk is the lack of offensive game.  The lack of a jump shot or anything.  Teams figured out to just leave them on the screen and crash lanes.  There has to be some sort of threat.  We need a 4 and a 5 that can do those things and stretch out the court. 3) Bridges.  He's just undersized.  However, I feel he really threw his all into it the last few weeks when others were gassed.  He was ok not being a focal point.  I'd like to have him off the bench as well but I assume he'd be traded to make things work.  4) Miller.  Dude can light it up when on, but disappears for quarters at a time.  Also he needs to work on ball handling and passing.  He's a turnover machine at bad times.  Also hopefully over the injury so he can bulk up too.   5) Kon. Just a rookie.  Long season and back injury.  I have no doubt he'll be back stronger and focused.  Needs to work on defense and physicality like the whole team but yes, a rookie he'll get there. 6) Coby.  Has to be resigned, no question.  The bench lineup is rough without him running the point.  Team has big potential and the front office seems sharp.  They seen the hive and how crazy it got and how much the city wants this.  
×
×
  • Create New...