Cam Newton should be done as a starting QB in this league

[Khyber53]

In Greek Mythology, heroes rarely end their days well, typically going on one last quest that ends disastrously. Still, they are remembered for their glory days, not for their downfalls.

So ends the tale of brave Ulysses.

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Honestly…it’s just insane to me that the coaching staff didn’t see something in practice to say they needed to bring him along slower. As fans we of course want to see him start. But FFS this is the NFL…they didn’t see ANY downside of playing a guy 100% of the snaps who can only deliver 50% of the playbook??

Desperation is a hell of a drug 

[Cpt slay a ho]

What were you saying last week? Was this said after Sam Darnold’s first bad game or did it take his 5th in a row ? 
 

knee jerk reactions left and right 

[shaq]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

In Greek Mythology, heroes rarely end their days well, typically going on one last quest that ends disastrously. Still, they are remembered for their glory days, not for their downfalls.

So ends the tale of brave Ulysses.

Well put post my friend. I really don’t think this is the end of Cams career. The fact he played so well two weeks straight with such little time with the playbook is honestly impressive. I would be more then happy to resign Cam and build up our o line and get an actual fuging oc that knows how to draw up plays.

[Snake]

I think he could be a game manager but this team needs more than that. 

[Snake]

7 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

In Greek Mythology, heroes rarely end their days well, typically going on one last quest that ends disastrously. Still, they are remembered for their glory days, not for their downfalls.

So ends the tale of brave Ulysses.

The best Spartans end up on their shields. 

[joemac]

This is such a low point in our franchise history.  The 2 week Cam distraction was great and all, but we came plummeting back down to Earth yesterday.  There is a systemic rot in this organization, and until that is sliced out, nothing is going to change.  It needs to start with Joe Brady given a 1 way Greyhound ticket to Louisiana or where ever the fug he wants to go. 

[Silent Majority]

Lol my goodness

[Tr3ach]

15 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

I’m pretty convinced that the combination of our offensive line, WRs who drop easy catches, and a OC who has turned out terrible would doom Tom Brady. 

Some people have been saying that throughout the season was regardless of who the qb was.  Some are coincidentally just starting for the most part.

[Tr3ach]

7 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

What were you saying last week? Was this said after Sam Darnold’s first bad game or did it take his 5th in a row ? 
 

knee jerk reactions left and right 

I get what you're saying and I agree to an extent but Darnold definitely started catching some heat after his 2nd loss and those two guys cant be evaluated exactly the same.   Most likely neither are the answer.  In the nfl you cant judge a 24 year old qb who is all potential who the coaches though they could mold and a 32 year old QB who is physically on the down turn and has had multiple major injuries that have seemed to be nagging him years later, the same.  Of course you have to look at those two situations a bit differently when you are trying to figure out your qb for the future. 

[Terry Tjs]

Maybe the 1.7 QBR for Walker explains some of it. 5.4 for CAM and 1.7 for Walker. We might have the worst offensive line in NFL history!

[rippadonn]

Hater circle jerk. Millions of dollars says ur wrong.

Keep jerking, sure it feels good.

[TylerDurden]

The offense is supposed to be predicated on timing, at least if it's based on the New Orleans offense as it has been reported time and again, and the stuff that happens just goes back to coaching.  

Both picks he threw were poor decisions, but they had no chance to be completed because of the coaching...  on one, the defender jumped the route (and interfered) and ran through DJ to get it because they've already seen it and knew it was coming.  On the other one, DJ lazily ran his route and didn't pull the defender with him as he was supposed to - Cam threw it anticipating the route combo was going to open up the route he was throwing to, and it never did.  

What I saw wasn't a guy that can't make the throws.  It was a guy trying to throw anticipating something would open up because he was relying on the offense to do what it was designed to do...  and it didn't.  It never does.  Because the offense schemtically sucks, is elementary, and our coaches have no fuging idea what they're doing. 

You saw how that entire game played out - you think Cam throwing those picks were going to matter?

We didn't run, we couldn't defend, and we gave up a fuging blocked punt for a TD when we knew they were gonna send the house.  Zeroing in on Cam is the least of what we should worry about.  Had the rest of our team held up their end of things, then sure, it's a conversation worth having.  But, once the snowball got rolling, the avalanche couldn't be stopped.  Sure, it was discouraging to see, but when was the last time you saw a QB have literally every fuging throw they attempt deflected at the LOS?  Regardless of what you think of his arm (and he still has plenty of zip and the ability to throw 50+ yards in the air), pass deflections by the line have to do with timing...  it's like the league knows we're trying to run these New Orleans style principals, but it's like a diet version...  they know when and where we're trying to get the ball out.  That has nothing to do with Cam's arm or ability to throw.  It's the defense knowing when and where we're trying to go with it, and Miami KNEW.  

He's not done.  That was an atrocious outing, but tbh, as someone else posted in another thread, it honestly at this point wouldn't even matter if we had acquired Watson...  he would be having his worst year ever if he had ended up here with this staff, and I guarantee he nor anyone else would've looked much better yesterday.  The league has figured this staff out...  both offensively and defensively and its why, combined with the players tuning Rhule out, we look progressively worse each week.

[glenwo2]

I think Joe Brady is done as an OC more than Cam is as a QB.  

Just saying.