Looking ahead to this offseason *Warning* Not for the Weak Stomach

[4Corners]

2 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

That's in line with a 2nd round tender (PJ is an RFA).

So this means if they tender him, if a team wants him they would have to give a second rounder? 
 

 

[Harbingers]

12 minutes ago, ncfan said:

PJ has been on min Salary 800k range coming off the XFL.

5 mil is a stretch.  But he has started a game or 2. So could easily see him want 2-3 mil.  for Example Blaine Gabbert is getting 2.5 mil this year.
Especially if we don’t sign anyone else and is looked as The guy to come in and bridge for someone else.

Let him test the market elsewhere see what he gets. If he gets 2-3 good for him. 

[CLG]

29 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cliff notes:  We're fuged

Alright, I’ll bite again

[Evil Hurney]

Here's a summary of the Offense currently under contract for the upcoming season.

QB needs something to be optimistic about.

RB is fine. I'd love to bring back Abdullah or get another RB that can catch.

FB/TE is fine for the current offense.

WR looks solid. Bring in some camp bodies or late round fliers to fill out the back end.

OL is probably not going to be as different as many would hope. There isn't much to be saved by cutting any of the OL and top end talent rarely hits FA. I'd suspect if the team were to go FA shopping it'd be at G or C. Best hope is to bring in a talented Rookie or two to push some of the existing guys down the pecking order.

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Let him test the market elsewhere see what he gets. If he gets 2-3 good for him. 

Point is.

unless we bring back Cam or someone on his level.  PJ will be brought in as a legit candidate to start,  and he won’t be getting less than a Blaine Gabbert.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, Toomers said:

What is his talent? What has he done to merit even a mention of a GM job? Almost every move has been a poor cap decision. His exact responsibility. Now, no one may be listening too him, but he hasn’t done anything at his current or former job to warrant this kind of attention. 

He was with the Steelers for years. This is just where we are as an organization. No one is really knocked for their work with us because who could possibly succeed in this dumpster fire? That's the sad reality. They'll be looking at what he did in a real NFL organization, not here.

Beane sat here while Hurney made idiotic move after idiotic move but the rest of the NFL knew he was a future GM.

[Evil Hurney]

5 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

So this means if they tender him, if a team wants him they would have to give a second rounder? 
 

 

Correct. 

If he gets a 2nd round tender it's ~$3.5M. If a team were to sign him (and the Panthers refused to match) they'd get a 2nd in the current draft.

Original round tender is cheaper, but PJ wasn't drafted.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Evil Hurney

[bigdog10]

The bad decisions that this franchise has made in the first 28 games of the Rhule tenure will set this franchise back at minimum another five years. 
 

CMC contract

Darnold trade

Drafting Brown and Horn over offensive linemen

 

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, ncfan said:

Point is.

unless we bring back Cam or someone on his level.  PJ will be brought in as a legit candidate to start,  and he won’t be getting less than a Blaine Gabbert.

You are assuming Rhule is still around in that scenario and even if he is, we already know Tepper is not gonna be satisfied with the Darnolds and PJ’s. PJ is RFA so let him see if he can get a “high” offer, if now low ball him.

All that I don’t see us not resigning Cam unless Tepper is assured a draft pick QB. 

[BrianS]

1 minute ago, Evil Hurney said:

Correct. 

If he gets a 2nd round tender it's ~$3.5M. If a team were to sign him (and the Panthers refused to match) they'd get a 2nd in the current draft.

Everything you say is true, but no one is going to give a second round pick for a backup QB.  I can't think of a team that would consider him as a starter, so that seems equally unlikely.

 

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

QB needs something to be optimistic about.

RB is fine. I'd love to bring back Abdullah or get another RB that can catch.

FB/TE is fine for the current offense.

WR looks solid. Bring in some camp bodies or late round fliers to fill out the back end.

OL is probably not going to be as different as many would hope. There isn't much to be saved by cutting any of the OL and top end talent rarely hits FA. I'd suspect if the team were to go FA shopping it'd be at G or C. Best hope is to bring in a talented Rookie or two to push some of the existing guys down the pecking order.

Would you be optimistic about Kenny Pickett?

Disagree on fullback. I think we need a true sledgehammer blocking fullback on the roster (but I'm old school).

Edited November 30, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He was with the Steelers for years. This is just where we are as an organization. No one is really knocked for their work with us because who could possibly succeed in this dumpster fire? That's the sad reality. They'll be looking at what he did in a real NFL organization, not here.

I see your point but he’s never been more than a calculator for the Steelers. No decisions. No scouting.  No one worried he’s gone. 

[LinvilleGorge]

We need to get Christensen and Brown on the field to determine if they can be potential answers in the future because right now it looks like we need four starting OL.

[BrianS]

31 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

FYI on Suleiman: there's been some speculation he might get a GM job this offseason.

Actually, if Suleiman is considered a minority, we would get two compensatory picks were he to be hired as a GM.  Apparently the NFL passed a resolution last year for that.