Looking ahead to this offseason *Warning* Not for the Weak Stomach

[ncfan]

There are still games left.  But you can go ahead and put a fork in this season.

So, Let's take a look at what we're getting ourselves into.

 

Right now.  It looks like we will be sitting right around 30 mil in cap space (plus or minus a few mil). 

Seems like a good bit.  A lot more than we normally have had under Hurney.  But once we starting going and looking at this roster.  It's not enough.

 

We also sit currently with 1 draft pick in the top 100 picks.   We will be drafting close to around 10th.  Top 10 guys are generally looked as the blue chip guys and more likely to hit on.  

In order for us to recoup a 3rd rounder, we will have to move down into the mid 20s most likely.  To get the 2nd,  we're going to have to work our way down to around the bottom 3-5 picks in rd 1.  QB's are the General exception where teams will get more aggressive and throw more to move.  Unfortunately, this is looked at as a weaker QB class.  And there just isn't those cant miss guys that teams are going to be throwing the bank to move up for.

 

Now onto the roster.

QB

Sam Darnold is our only QB under Contract going into next year.  If this isnt you're draft pick, You're going to spend on a FA.  at the Very Least.  You're going to spend 10-15 mil here to bring in a starter level QB.  Even If you Do Draft one, As mentioned above, this isnt looked at as the greatest QB class.  The ones that are even highly regarded, are looked at more upside guys NOT day 1 starter guys.  So you're going to Have to bring a bridge vet guy.  Whether its Cam again which will cost you 10+ mil.  Or a PJ Walker for 3-5 mil.

 

The OL needs almost a Complete Overhaul. 

Moton is Locked up.  Christensen has shown flashes.  But he still hasn't proven anything.....yet.  Hopefully these next few weeks we will get an idea.   Deonte Brown is someone we have been excited over.  But he was still a late rd pick and couldn't even beat out arguably THE Worst Interior OL in the NFL prior to his injury.  Cam Erving and Elfien are still here.  And I would expect at least one to be cut to open some space.  Elfein Will probably get his shot as the Center next year.  He hasn't been good at any of his other stops.  And was Cut or not attempted be resigned by his 2 previous teams who also had bottom of the league OL's.  Also Dennis Daley

-Paradis, Scott, John Miller are all FA

So.  Moton, Christensen, Deonte Brown, Elfein, Erving, Daley are our only OL currently signed through next year

 

Reminder

1 top 100 pick

30ish Mil in Cap Space.

 

 

All the focus has been on the offense for obvious reason.

But here are some of our defensive FA's

-Gilmore (Starter)

-Donte Jackson (Starter)

-DaQuan Jones

-Juston Burris (Starter)

-Frankie Luvu

-Julian Stanford

-Rashaan Melvin

-Sean Chandler

-Marquis Haynes

-Jermaine Carter (Starter)

-Haason Reddick (Starter)

 

I would think at least 1 of Donte or Gilmore will be signed.  Will be around 14 mil market value (remember that 30 mil cap space number)

 

We lose a few other starters as well.

Including Jermaine Carter, Who by the way has hinted on Twitter in the past that he is going to want to get Paid and cares about that $$.

The other big Fish

Haason Reddick.  Last year, were Arizona Franchise tagged him, it would've been 16 mil.  It only goes up at least a little bit every year.  And with his play, is going to cost a min 17 mil (remember the 30 mil cap space number).  Reddick currently has 10.5 of the teams 32 Sacks and is 5th on the Team in Tackles.

 

 

This offseason.  Fitty and this FO has their work cut out for them.  Because  it is looking pretty ugly with a team with barely a pulse finishing this season. 

 

Edited November 30, 2021 by ncfan

[mrcompletely11]

Cliff notes:  We're fuged

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cliff notes:  We're fuged

I think we have firmly established that as fact by now.

[Ricky Spanish]

Hopefully Sulieman can get squirrely with the cap much in the same way the Saints did this past season where we "extend" Sam converting his salary into smaller increments and adding voidable years to the back end to ease his cap hit. 

Same thing might work with a few other guys as well.

Either way I think we let Donte walk and re-sign gilmore, hopefully to a reasonable contract extension. Reddick we will need to re-sign as well, I'm also a jones fan too.

Luvu needs to stay, he's been a little ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark year. 

[Waldo]

Ohh there is a lot more pain than just the roster. It's going to be an interesting 6 months for the team.

[Mr. Scot]

FYI on Suleiman: there's been some speculation he might get a GM job this offseason.

[BerryLoMein]

Well we may be fuged, but on the bright side, at least we didn't sign Stafford.

[rayzor]

I do know if Rhule is still here, I don't want him poaching 2023 draft picks.

Roll with what you got, buddy. You dug that grave. You best go ahead and get cozy.

[ncfan]

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

 

 

Either way I think we let Donte walk and re-sign gilmore, hopefully to a reasonable contract extension. Reddick we will need to re-sign as well, I'm also a jones fan too.

Luvu needs to stay, he's been a little ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark year. 

Gilmore’s “Market Value” from what he seen is around 14.5 mil

Reddick’s tag would’ve been 16 Last Year.  With the season he is having.  I’d expect 17 or even north of that.

 

Those 2 defensive players alone will account for 21.5  (minimum) of the 30 projected mil.   Now you have to remember, Sam Darnold is the only QB under contract as well.

[rayzor]

Btw, we're panther fans. We already have strong stomachs. 

[LinvilleGorge]

We gotta fire Rhule before he sends us further down the road to hell. What a collosal mistake it was to hire him and give him full control.

[Fox007]

Started off in such good shape too. Had Cap room. Had a top 10 pick(s)

Maybe squandered both but definitely have squandered one pick and now the cap looks squandered yay us right back to speed running shitting your pants and ruining the good you built.

Panthers be that kid at the beach to build a Sand Castle and go play in the water for a bit come back and be like "look at this nerds sand castle" and then kick it over and start laughing only to hang their head in shame and realize that's their sand castle.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

I do know if Rhule is still here, I don't want him poaching 2023 draft picks.

Roll with what you got, buddy. You dug that grave. You best go ahead and get cozy.

Given our current lack of picks this year, can't say I'd be surprised.

It's likely either that or overspend in free agency.

Edited November 30, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[ncfan]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

FYI on Suleiman: there's been some speculation he might get a GM job this offseason.

This.

have seen some articles listing him as one of the hot candidates