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Could this team beat the 2001 or 2010 teams?


KillerKat
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Which is worse?  

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  1. 1. Which is worse?

    • 2001 Panthers
      7
    • 2010 Panthers
      22
    • 2021 Panthers
      33


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1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

Rhule and Fitterer can’t draft. They had all those picks and not one single impact player came out of the whole thing. Got a decent RB2 and a CB2 who couldn’t stay on the field, plus a slew of XFL-caliber players. 

The 2021 draft will go down as one of the two or three worst in franchise history — basically 2011, if there was no Cam

Can't draft or can't develop? It's hard to definitively know.

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3 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Depends if Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen is starting for the 2010 team. Matt Moore would blow this team out, Jimmy would be closer but J-Stew and D-Will would run all over this team.

Before Matt got hurt that year, he was promising. Fox also started him before he was 100% which further hurt his progress. Healthy Matt Moore would kill us. He had 8 Tds and 1 int in his last 5 games in 2009. A couple of those games with 3 Tds and 0 ints against the Brett Favre lead Vikings and the Giants.

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3 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Before Matt got hurt that year, he was promising. Fox also started him before he was 100% which further hurt his progress. Healthy Matt Moore would kill us. He had 8 Tds and 1 int in his last 5 games in 2009. A couple of those games with 3 Tds and 0 ints against the Brett Favre lead Vikings and the Giants.

Yeah if Matt hadn’t gotten hurt we were probably a 5-7 win team. He played great against SF and then went down.

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Lot of revisionist history with just how bad Jimmy Clausen was.. 3 TDs in 13 games. And our defense? 28th in points allowed. 

That defense couldn't stop this years team. Nick Hayden, Tyler Brayton, Dan Connor, Richard Marshall, Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin are far and away inferior to our team now.

Matt Moore, Stewart and Smitty may cook our present defense tho.

And Fox>>>>Rhule

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34 minutes ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Lot of revisionist history with just how bad Jimmy Clausen was.. 3 TDs in 13 games. And our defense? 28th in points allowed. 

That defense couldn't stop this years team. Nick Hayden, Tyler Brayton, Dan Connor, Richard Marshall, Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin are far and away inferior to our team now.

Matt Moore, Stewart and Smitty may cook our present defense tho.

And Fox>>>>Rhule

You did selectively take away the defenders that were far, far better than our current ones.

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