Panthers have reached out to Minnesota for Kirk Cousins

[frankw]

4 hours ago, grimesgoat said:

I think CMC is the difference.  When he played, we were 4-3.  When he was out, we were 1-9.

With our defense and a healthy CMC, we can field a competitive team regardless of our QB shortcomings.

If CMC is hurt and misses half the season, we'll win 4-5 games and be picking in the top 5. Darnold will be gone and CMC will be cut.  We can get a good QB there and start out fresh with a new coach.

If he is healthy, our ceiling is probably 8 wins, which will put us picking around 10-14.  We can still get a good young QB in that range but none of the top 3. 

If we have to pick a QB this year, I hope we move back, pick up a second, and select Strong.  Give him a chance to sit and watch for a while and improve the OL with our first.  I think he will be successful when the new coaching regime arrives next year.

If the absence of one running back can sink your whole season you weren't a very competitive team to begin with. Panthers fans won't want to hear that but that's where we're at and why we shouldn't have signed that contract with no viable starting QB in place.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

 

Sources have confirmed the call in question did occur. The question now is whether anything meaningful comes of it.

 

 I am not doubting you here but has there been a report with sources confirming it or just speculation?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

 I am not doubting you here but has there been a report with sources confirming it or just speculation?

Yeah. Josh Klein confirmed it.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah. Josh Klein confirmed it.

Thanks must have missed it.  He does have sources

[SmokinwithWilly]

22 minutes ago, frankw said:

If the absence of one running back can sink your whole season you weren't a very competitive team to begin with. Panthers fans won't want to hear that but that's where we're at and why we shouldn't have signed that contract with no viable starting QB in place.

Losing CMC is a big deal but if your OC can't do anything other than run 75% of the offense through him, the problem isn't just that we aren't a competitive team. It's in large part because we've been led by a guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the building and well... we've seen how that's worked out. 5-12 is for winners. 1000%

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Losing CMC is a big deal but if your OC can't do anything other than run 75% of the offense through him, the problem isn't just that we aren't a competitive team. It's in large part because we've been led by a guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the building and well... we've seen how that's worked out. 5-12 is for winners. 1000%

Ron and his staff did the same thing with McCaffrey in 2019 and people thought it was a good thing. The gut punch as fans is the fact we haven't won a damn thing meaningful since we tried to make him the focal point of our offense. His rookie year we went to the playoffs because Cam was still running the ball like the old days. He carried us to a playoff berth. 2020 was such a missed opportunity. Instead of paying CMC like a quarterback we should have had him on the trade block. The only goal should have been acquiring the next young QB to takeover for Cam. But nope we needed a face to sell tickets. That buyers remorse set in quick huh?

[BurnNChinn]

43 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Thanks must have missed it.  He does have sources

 

[Snake]

Figured they would give up our first. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Overpaying for multiple QBs (three seasons in a row) is what happens to NFL owners that believe their biggest area of concern is on the field rather than on the sidelines.

Edited February 22, 2022 by NanuqoftheNorth

[Luciu5]

10 hours ago, joemac said:

Why the hell would they give us Cousins, let us keep #6 and also give us another first rounder?

 

10 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

Lol that’s what I was fixing to type. Hell I think anyone would take that deal

They wouldn't, but we're on the huddle where most everything is make believe so I figured it would fit right in.

In all seriousness though, that's about the only way I'd take Cousins. He's absolutely an upgrade over Darnold, but his cap hit is insane and I wouldn't want to spend any draft picks on him. I'd negotiate with him as a free agent as a stopgap QB, but a trade? nah.

[rayzor]

What's going to be dumb is when Rhule gets fired the new coach is going to be wanting his guy....and we'll be stuck without a first round pick for him because we fuggin traded it away for one of these other guys....and we still won't have an OL.

 

[sonburst4]

To me, there's 2 choices.  Trade Darnold and pick 6 to the Vikings for Cousins and pick 12, take best OL at pick 12.  Stay at pick 6 and take Willis and play for 2024.

[mrcompletely11]

38 minutes ago, sonburst4 said:

To me, there's 2 choices.  Trade Darnold and pick 6 to the Vikings for Cousins and pick 12, take best OL at pick 12.  Stay at pick 6 and take Willis and play for 2024.

Why in the hell would they do that?  That literally makes no sense

[sonburst4]

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Why in the hell would they do that?  That literally makes no sense

They would get pick 6 and their top choice at QB. They would also unload a ton of money at QB with Cousins gone. We would get a decent QB and a starting OL as well.