The Saints are using dummy years in contracts to flush cap hits?

[Ja Rhule]

So that’s how the Saints dodge cap numbers?  They push all hit to dummy years and let player go with no impact?  How does that even work?
 

Saints restructured DT David Onyemata's and OT James Hurst's contracts, saving $7 million against the cap. 

New Orleans' long march toward cap space continues. Onyemata is scheduled to be a free agent in 2023, so this move likely sent bonus money into dummy years, almost ensuring the Saints will be doing this same dance with someone else next March. 

[Peppers90 NC]

Like we are paying $4mil to Reddick this year even though he left in free agency, I assume.

[PanthersGOATFan336]

9 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

So the Saints are using dummy years in contracts to flush all the cap hits.  Basically bypassing cap limits.  Does anyone familiar with dummy years in contracts?  Sounds like a loophole.

This needed a thread because.....

[Smittymoose]

Everyone does this, and it's not with "no impact." The remainder of the salary cap hit due is forwarded to the year in which the contract is voided. Which is why Armstead will cost them an additional $13M and Winston another $3M if they do not re-sign with New Orleans. 

[Peppers90 NC]

Just now, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

This needed a thread because.....

Because you needed your panties wadded up

[Ja Rhule]

2 minutes ago, PanthersGOATFan336 said:

This needed a thread because.....

 

[SetfreexX]

13 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

So that’s how the Saints dodge cap numbers?  They push all hit to dummy years and let player go with no impact?  How does that even work?
 

Saints restructured DT David Onyemata's and OT James Hurst's contracts, saving $7 million against the cap. 

New Orleans' long march toward cap space continues. Onyemata is scheduled to be a free agent in 2023, so this move likely sent bonus money into dummy years, almost ensuring the Saints will be doing this same dance with someone else next March. 

Those voidable years still become dead money, they just allow room in the current year. So even when the dead money starts to hit you just do this for the other contracts on the team to ''create'' more space. 

The cap essentially goes up EVERY year, and the NFL isn't ending anytime soon, so with those factors in mind, you could as we have seen with them do this EVERY year. 

[WarPanthers89]

Same with Paradis and his two dummy years we are paying for 

[LinvilleGorge]

The Saints have been expert cap manipulators for years. We do the same poo, they're just a lot better at it than we are.

[t96]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Saints have been expert cap manipulators for years. We do the same poo, they're just a lot better at it than we are.

Are they really? Quite subpar results considering they’ve had a HoF QB and HC combo for 15 years... Bailed out by an incredible all time draft in 2017 which made them relevant again but still nothing to show for it since then.

[cookinbrak]

Just kicking the can down the road.  Eventually you run out of road.

[Tbe]

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

Just kicking the can down the road.  Eventually you run out of road.

Not when the cap constantly goes up.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

Are they really? Quite subpar results considering they’ve had a HoF QB and HC combo for 15 years... Bailed out by an incredible all time draft in 2017 which made them relevant again but still nothing to show for it since then.

Now do us.

[t96]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Now do us.

Yep that makes sense because we’ve also had a HoF HC and QB for 15 years.