Thoughts on Garrett Wilson (WR) at 6

[davos]

Yup I said it lol.  Time to mix it up in here with the FA momentum.  Stir el conversatione.  And this is not simply because we've filled a few holes on the OL.  I just want playmakers at the end of the day and to elevate this offense into a powerhouse.   

Looking at the top squads, they've got at least 1 stud at a minimum at WR-- Adams (former-GB), Diggs (BUF), Hill (KC), Kupp (LAR), Chase/Higgins (CIN), Godwin/Evans (TB), Deebo (SF).  You simply need these guys with the modern game.  Furthermore, I think a lot of them elevated the QB play and SF & LAR would not have been where they were without Kupp and Deebo.  And now, we've got so much success league wide with younger WRs (Jefferson, Chase, Waddle, Pittman, Claypool, etc.)  

Now if Ekwonu or Neal are there, I say we have to grab one they're mix of talent and need match what we need. But, if we're looking at Penning, Cross, Pickett, Willis, Walker, & Thibodaux, I'm seriously looking at Garrett Wilson as BPA, who's arguably the best offensive skill player in the entire draft.  I think he's on his own tier versus the rest.  London may be arguable but I see him clearly above Burks, Watson, Williams, etc.

We just extended Moore, so why not add to it with a guy who's very Diggs-esque with a bit of Kupp?  This would give us a top tandem for 3+ years.   One on a rookie deal for likely 5-years and then Moore hitting his stride/career peak.

So maybe we go the inverse Bengals model, get the top WR one year (Chase) and then the QB the next (CJ/Young/McCall/Haener/etc.)?

How would we be feeling about this?  I just feel like getting such a for-sure offensive weapon would really help pull us out of this offensive awfulness and if CMC last an entire season, we could actually be competitive with him, Wilson & Moore.  

 

[MHS831]

I like him a lot, but with Moore, Anderson, Marshall, Smith, Zylstra, etc. I think we have bigger needs--but he would make us the best WR corp in the NFL.

We could have some very interesting dillemmas--what if Thibodeux is there and we need a pass rusher?  What about Stingley (we have only 2 established CBs).  What about Cross?  Gonna be interesting.

[davos]

Just now, MHS831 said:

I like him a lot, but with Moore, Anderson, Marshall, Smith, Zylstra, etc. I think we have bigger needs--but he would make us the best WR corp in the NFL.

We could have some very interesting dillemmas--what if Thibodeux is there and we need a pass rusher?  What about Stingley (we have only 2 established CBs).  What about Cross?  Gonna be interesting.

My only thing is that I don’t see a guy we can truly get behind other than Moore but he’s not the type to take the top off a defense or slowly grind one into submission.

Marshall was strangely MIA even at the end of last year with Shi honestly looking more promising at times. 

It’s a need and getting a young stud, arguably the best offensive skill player in an entire draft could really sweeten things up for a new young QB. 

Just imagine a young duo like Stroud and Wilson similar to what CIN has in 2 former teammates. Could be a cool tandem to lead a new era.

[ForJimmy]

Unless we get a vet QB, we are drafting one. They are not building this team and risking their jobs on Darnold rather we like it or not. 

[MHS831]

8 minutes ago, davos said:

My only thing is that I don’t see a guy we can truly get behind other than Moore but he’s not the type to take the top off a defense or slowly grind one into submission.

Marshall was strangely MIA even at the end of last year with Shi honestly looking more promising at times. 

It’s a need and getting a young stud, arguably the best offensive skill player in an entire draft could really sweeten things up for a new young QB. 

Just imagine a young duo like Stroud and Wilson similar to what CIN has in 2 former teammates. Could be a cool tandem to lead a new era.

Definitely see your point.  I love him as a player.

[davos]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Unless we get a vet QB, we are drafting one. They are not building this team and risking their jobs on Darnold rather we like it or not. 

Yup I see it. I’m more making the argument for Wilson and less predicting what we’ll do, which seems likely to be Pickett.

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, davos said:

Yup I see it. I’m more making the argument for Wilson and less predicting what we’ll do, which seems likely to be Pickett.

Oh yeah, he would make sense on a BPA option if we had a complete roster. The man is very talented and as you stated you can’t have too many WRs (especially cheap rookie ones). 

[top dawg]

25 minutes ago, davos said:

My only thing is that I don’t see a guy we can truly get behind other than Moore but he’s not the type to take the top off a defense or slowly grind one into submission.

Marshall was strangely MIA even at the end of last year with Shi honestly looking more promising at times. 

It’s a need and getting a young stud, arguably the best offensive skill player in an entire draft could really sweeten things up for a new young QB. 

Just imagine a young duo like Stroud and Wilson similar to what CIN has in 2 former teammates. Could be a cool tandem to lead a new era.

Wouldn't get my hopes up on Shi making a major impact as a receiver. From Fitterer's comments, they really are trying to find a place him, and they're hoping that he becomes an adept punt returner or gunner. Shi needs to find his niche on ST. They apparently see him as a WR4.

 

 

 

 

 

[rayzor]

Be worse than drafting a corner.

[Jackie Lee]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

Be worse than drafting a corner.

If we can't get O-line or trade back just say F it and take Jordan Davis. Impacts every down

[bababoey]

8 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

If we can't get O-line or trade back just say F it and take Jordan Davis. Impacts every down

Yeah.  If you can keep him from turning into a fat ass like Jenkins did he might be the best player in this draft.

[SmokinwithWilly]

As long as it's an elite level playmaker and not a QB I'm ok with it. 

[App Panther]

That would be a luxury pick. And we are no where close to using Top 10 picks on those.

The pick must be LT, QB, or LB.

P.S. If you would have said Drake London I would have entertained it.

[CPantherKing]

If you want to go for the miracle season, then you draft Garrett Wilson or Treylon Burks in the first round. I prefer Burks, but I'd be happy with Wilson.

The Panthers set the team up for the miracle season early in free agency.

OL set up well enough. 5 main targets in the passing game. CMC, Wilson, Moore, Anderson, Zylstra. Need a TE who can consistently threaten with 40 targets (Thomas/Tremble were unable to do this in 2021). Need a #2 RB who can catch in the flat (was Ameer Abdullah, but he is gone).

Draft a QB late or find one on a roster/street. Light a fire under them and let them know this is their one shot. They have nothing to lose. Go all in with them. Must be a passionate competitor and natural leader. Glass, Coan, Buechele, Rypien, Foles, Hogan , or Bray would do the job, and one of them gets their opportunity to shine. In Foles case, a second time to shine.

Go pass heavy all season and take chances.

The small pieces in the TE and #2 back in a pass heavy scheme would be the issue. Hooper and Abdullah would have solved this (Maybe OJ Howard). Kyle Rudolph, Jesse James, Melvin Gordon, and Sony Michel are still on the market. Doubt the staff is moving away from Thomas, Tremble, and Hubbard in these roles and it'll cost the Panthers a couple games.

Only reason I would draft a WR in the first round is for a shot at a miracle season when the hot seat is burning under the coach.