Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

The Panthers have first round grades on 3 QBs.

Zod

By Zod,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
37 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

That’s fair. But we aren’t going to have a great QB next year regardless. Whether it’s Darnold or a rookie. The best thing we can do is sure up the left side of our line. Which, pretty much all Panthers fans agree, was as big of a reason we lost as any last season 

I'm honestly not thinking about next year. I think we're pretty much fuged on the field until Tepper man's up and fires his boy Rhule.

 

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
kungfoodude Grand Master

kungfoodude

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The “top class in a decade” has a worse rookie season than the previous with Burrow and Herbert. Waiting until next year is a gamble like everything else in the draft. 

There isn't gambling. Gambling is drafting based on need and not grade. If you don't think one of these QB's is going to be elite, you don't take them at 6. That's the math. 

Take the best combination of need and best player that suits the team. You don't reach for a need or reach for a player if you don't think they will be elite. 

IMO, none of these QB's are worth taking in the 1st round because they are all very long shots to being elite QB's. So, if it's me, no chance I take one at six, no matter how much we need them.

2nd or 3rd round? Sure, we can gamble there. 

This draft success quite literally hinges on our 6th because we are unlikely to get anything out of the remaining picks(barring a trade down scenario). So, if it's me, I don't dummy this up and get cute. Take a player that is likely to be elite and preferably at a position of real need. 

If you want to make panic moves, Jimmy G and Baker are likely to be available after the draft. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
kungfoodude Grand Master

kungfoodude

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not thinking about next year. I think we're pretty much fuged on the field until Tepper man's up and fires his boy Rhule.

 

Yeah and people are getting caught up in offseason fever and not seeing that Matt Rhule is still our coach. They have shined this turd with some decent offseason moves and some okay coaching staff hires. But....despite the sheen you appear to be seeing, it's still a POS.

  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There isn't gambling. Gambling is drafting based on need and not grade. If you don't think one of these QB's is going to be elite, you don't take them at 6. That's the math. 

Take the best combination of need and best player that suits the team. You don't reach for a need or reach for a player if you don't think they will be elite. 

IMO, none of these QB's are worth taking in the 1st round because they are all very long shots to being elite QB's. So, if it's me, no chance I take one at six, no matter how much we need them.

2nd or 3rd round? Sure, we can gamble there. 

This draft success quite literally hinges on our 6th because we are unlikely to get anything out of the remaining picks(barring a trade down scenario). So, if it's me, I don't dummy this up and get cute. Take a player that is likely to be elite and preferably at a position of real need. 

If you want to make panic moves, Jimmy G and Baker are likely to be available after the draft. 

You may not be high on them, but they apparently have 3 with first round grades. Is a first round graded QB worth the 6th pick? I guess it depends on how high of a first round grade they have on them. I think this class is fine, just missing the number one overall prospect in a Andrew Luck, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence. If it had one of those it was be on par with any average class. Since we aren’t picking 1st and I don’t want Rhule trading away any future picks it’s really in our favor there is no top pick or the Jags would probably fleece us for it. I like Willis, Pickett, Corral, and Howell as QB prospects. Do they have weaknesses? Yeah, so do most draft picks. Even this “great” OL class has plenty of weaknesses. No one still knows who the Jags are picking at 1 because there isn’t a “perfect” prospect in this draft. 
Drafting a QB will make this season more intriguing and prevent Rhule from screwing over the new coach next year by trading away capital for one or spending next year’s money to extend one we trade for in Jimmy G or Mayfield. A rookie QB is cheap and can be easily replaced if our new staff isn’t impressed. It’s a win/win in my book. Damage control plus not having to suffer another season of Darnold with no competition. 

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
davos Grand Master

davos

Posted
Posted
26 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah and people are getting caught up in offseason fever and not seeing that Matt Rhule is still our coach. They have shined this turd with some decent offseason moves and some okay coaching staff hires. But....despite the sheen you appear to be seeing, it's still a POS.

We basically have 4 promising young defensive pieces and CMC and Moore on offense. Neither of which are elite (either too injured or not game changers)

The rest of the team minus now 2 longer term lineman (Moton and a Corbett) are completely expendable/would likely see turnover with the next coach. 

Very disappointed TMJ was so non impactful when it’s the other way around these days for rookie WRs.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Thompcat Collaborator

Thompcat

Posted
Posted

Jets could be a trade partner if Sauce isn't taken by 6. I could see them trade #10 and #38 to get him. 

Penning would still be there I think or if they are hell bent in getting a Qb Corral would still be there. Then at 38 take T Tyler Smith he has been moving up the board

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
top dawg Grand Master

top dawg

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He had to stop because it became a problem.  That's an alcoholic.  He's been battling depression as well.  Add that to his maturity issues and it's a hard pass.  I don't want my nfl qb, face of the franchise going into it already struggling mentally.   Sorry it's a business.  

Stopping because it was causing you problems, and stopping because it is a problem are two totally different things. I have never been an alcoholic, but when I was in school I drank quite a bit and was told that I had a problem. Well, as a sophomore, I reflected upon it. By the time  was an upperclassman, I would still drink on occasion, I just wouldn't abuse it. That's how I have rolled for more than three decades. We don't all mature at the same time or about the same things. Anyone who doesn't understand that fact is either woefully ignorant, wilfully provocative, simpleminded or just plain stupid. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Proudiddy Grand Master

Proudiddy

Posted
Posted

I really like the prospect of trading back and picking up a second, but I'm almost certain if we do, we aren't getting Willis.

So, I'm torn.  On one hand, it seems like an easy decision, because if we trade back, I'm cool with taking Corral and drafting a OL or edge in the second and feel like we just made out like bandits...  but in the other hand, I feel like if Willis figures it out in the pros, you can use him in so many different ways and is much more dynamic, so if we were able to draft him, he has the highest ceiling and purest superstar potential out of the QBs.  

It's a tough dilemma.  If we were in the Top 3, I 2ouldnt hesitate to trade back to 7-ish and feel confident we'd get that 2nd rounder and still get Willis.  Trading back from 6, I just don't see us getting him.  I like Corral as a pure passer - great arm, beautiful release, and he is no doubt athletic, but he is also extremely slight and I dont trust his durability at all...  he won't present the problems and dynamism that Willis does.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
stirs Grand Master

stirs

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, Thompcat said:

Jets could be a trade partner if Sauce isn't taken by 6. I could see them trade #10 and #38 to get him. 

Penning would still be there I think or if they are hell bent in getting a Qb Corral would still be there. Then at 38 take T Tyler Smith he has been moving up the board

That would be nice for the Panthers, but don't think the numbers line up

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • CPcavedweller
      89 on The Pivot

      By CPcavedweller · Posted

      Glass houses and all. I find the people who are the most adamant about this type of thing tend to have the most to hide. Careful buddy. 
    • Proudiddy
      89 on The Pivot

      By Proudiddy · Posted

      Also, wanted to point out, all 3 of the Pivot guys I respect and appreciate tremendously.  I know RC only had 1 pro bowl, but I loved his game.  He was tough as nails and played with a ton of heart and grit.  He was trying to knock people out, but was also super cerebral.  Fred is obviously a hall of famer and just as tough. Channing made the most of what he had and was hard-nosed as well.  And yet, all three of them let Steve slide on a ton of poo in this interview.  They actually cowered in several moments and I don’t like that at all.  Because for all the things I mentioned in my initial post in this thread, them not trying to reel him back in or hold his feet to the fire on certain bullshit, and feels gross.  Yall were all on the same competitive level as athletes, and yet, yall just let him skate on poo like talking about invoking using a gun on someone, laughing off how he essentially ended two teammates’ careers by BULLYING them and then co-signing it, and letting him completely sidestep accountability about his affair.  I get it, because apparently he invited you to his home to do the interview, but either talk some real poo or don’t do the interview at all.  This was some real softball poo.
    • Mike2.0
      This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

      By Mike2.0 · Posted

      This season’s leader, Daniel Jones, is averaging 265.9 yards per game, that would rank 12th in 2015. Even going back to 2020, he would rank 10th in passing yards. So it does appear that passing yards is down, but is that because they aren’t as good? Possibly, but we were spoilt in recent years when we had Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Ryan, Stafford (etc). As crops of QBs go, it was an amazing era to watch and most will end up in the Hall of Fame. I’m not convinced you we could list as many potential Hall of Fame QBs from the current crop. Will it go pass heavy again? I think there’s a good chance that it will, but it will require QBs that can consistently air the ball out in the frequency we saw in the 00s and 10s. I think currently coaches are favouring a more balanced approach, if not favouring a strong running game. 
×
×
  • Create New...