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Which LT in the draft will bust?

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KatsAzz Grand Master

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Not saying he will be a bust but Evan Neal may not project to be a super great left tackle like some are hoping.

A lot of pro scouts  say an NFL team could get away with Neal at left tackle, but he would be a more dominant player at right tackle or guard.

At the Senior Bowl, sources from a couple of NFL teams with top-10 picks said they would not play Neal at left tackle in the pros. Neal is an overwhelming blocker in the ground game and capable as a pass blocker.

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7 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

Not saying he will be a bust but Evan Neal may not project to be a super great left tackle like some are hoping.

A lot of pro scouts  say an NFL team could get away with Neal at left tackle, but he would be a more dominant player at right tackle or guard.

At the Senior Bowl, sources from a couple of NFL teams with top-10 picks said they would not play Neal at left tackle in the pros. Neal is an overwhelming blocker in the ground game and capable as a pass blocker.

I think that is the thing about saying "bust." Do we mean Greg Little bust or a guy who busts at the position? Guys like Neal, Ekwonu or Penning might be Pro Bowl caliber players at RT or OG. Is that a true bust or maybe just a guy that wasn't great positional value?

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6 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Ekwonu. He's extremely talented, but also very raw. 

I generally disagree. I can see a definite argument for him being a bust as a LT but it's hard for me to envision Ekwonu or Penning(barring injury) being true busts. The way they play the game, the athletic ability and their intelligence(both smart guys), makes me think they will be successful SOMEWHERE on the OL.

I don't see all the same things in Neal or Cross. 

But, I mean, give me any of the 4.

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54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That was gonna be my comment. If you mean AT LT, Neal or Ekwonu. But I also think those guys could be Pro Bowl caliber OG's or RT's.

The biggest chance of being an overall bust, probably Cross. 

I think it’s Cross because he wouldn’t be able to slide into OG that easily if he struggles. I get a little amount of Greg Little vibes from him with the grading well in pass protection, but needing work in run blocking. 

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Ekwonu, Smith and Penning will be busts. Neal and Cross will be serviceable. None of the top 5 tackles will be all pro. Tackles are heavily overrated at the top just like the QBs. You can find mid round OTs just as good as the hyped prospects.

Kinnard, Faalele, Tom, and Vrabel will be the best from this class.

I wouldn't be shocked if several OTs from this class are moved to guard.

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3 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Ekwonu, Smith and Penning will be busts. Neal and Cross will be serviceable. None of the top 5 tackles will be all pro. Tackles are heavily overrated at the top just like the QBs. You can find mid round OTs just as good as the hyped prospects.

Kinnard, Faalele, Tom, and Vrabel will be the best from this class.

I wouldn't be shocked if several OTs from this class are moved to guard.

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9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I think it’s Cross because he wouldn’t be able to slide into OG that easily if he struggles. I get a little amount of Greg Little vibes from him with the grading well in pass protection, but needing work in run blocking. 

I agree, he's possibly just Brady Christensen with longer arms. If he's only a 10% of an upgrade over BC I wouldn't spend the 6th pick on him. Mcadoo and Fitt obviously went for the opposite type players in FA so far, more road grader/mauler types. 

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6 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Ekwonu, Smith and Penning will be busts. Neal and Cross will be serviceable. None of the top 5 tackles will be all pro. Tackles are heavily overrated at the top just like the QBs. You can find mid round OTs just as good as the hyped prospects.

Kinnard, Faalele, Tom, and Vrabel will be the best from this class.

I wouldn't be shocked if several OTs from this class are moved to guard.

If we don't trade back I'd take a shot at Qb and grab whichever of those 4 guys are there in the 4th, grab Hayes or Thayer in the 5th if still around. Even if they aren't starters I'd rather have young depth that wanna play instead of these journeymen we were using the last 2 years

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32 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Ekwonu, Smith and Penning will be busts. Neal and Cross will be serviceable. None of the top 5 tackles will be all pro. Tackles are heavily overrated at the top just like the QBs. You can find mid round OTs just as good as the hyped prospects.

Kinnard, Faalele, Tom, and Vrabel will be the best from this class.

I wouldn't be shocked if several OTs from this class are moved to guard.

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I realize most of the takes here are based on expert analysis of 30 second film clips, but here goes. Neal and Ekwonu are RT or G in the NFL. Cross not only excels at pass protection, but also was very good in run blocking his Fr year when MSU did not run the Air Raid offense. He is a plug and play 10 yr starter at LT.

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