Outside opinions on the Panthers draft plans

[Sgt Schultz]

4 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

He is saying Rhule will convince them on Pickett because if he plays well it will save his job (I really hope this isn't the case)

That begs the response "that ship has already sailed."

[joemac]

5 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I remember that game well.  It was like Shanahan decided to leave him out there until the ambulance came and got him. 

While I am not for owners meddling, even I would have called down to the sidelines at some point and told Shanahan to either get RG3 off the field or I was coming down immediately to get him off the field.

If I remember right, it was the age-old excuse "he didn't tell me he was too hurt to continue."

Which is ridiculous, as anybody who has ever been a good athlete at any sort of high level knows they will almost never tell their coach they are too hurt to play.  I remember playing baseball with my left arm damn near about to fall off, and I was like "Nah, im good coach". 

[Sgt Schultz]

I remember thinking "what the hell do they pay you for?"

If I remember, Rivera said the same thing about Cam.  I had the same thought then, too.

[LinvilleGorge]

26 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I remember that game well.  It was like Shanahan decided to leave him out there until the ambulance came and got him. 

While I am not for owners meddling, even I would have called down to the sidelines at some point and told Shanahan to either get RG3 off the field or I was coming down immediately to get him off the field.

If I remember right, it was the age-old excuse "he didn't tell me he was too hurt to continue."

Yeah, I honestly didn't much care for RG3 but that was hard to watch. I legit felt bad for him.

 

[stirs]

Carolina is not the place for potential QB's to develop, it is the place for good QB's to die

[Icege]

I really, really want an OT if the team stays at #6

[stirs]

Looks more like Huddle opinions

[chbright]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Who knows how RG3 may have ended up had Shanahan not left him out there on one leg to get his knee obliterated.

That was malpractice. Like no way shanahan should ever get another job. That BS forever tarnished his Denver runs. RG3 with a line and letting him heal likely is in the top 4 QB I'm the league talk today...... Damn you shanahan for wasting such a talent.makes Ron and co look like geniuses with Cam.

 

[w280sax]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

 I don’t have any faith in the new crew but man Rhule may soon be the reason why we lost two SBs.

I don't understand your point.  How has rhule cost us 2 sbs?

[ForJimmy]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

At this point I've seen Willis compared to a dozen or more pro quarterbacks, and to a man they were all infinitely more successful against a higher level of competition than anything Willis saw.

Basically people just project whoever they want to see him as (regardless of whether there's any real validity to it).

Josh Allen was not. I know they aren’t similar, but his stats were worse at Wyoming…

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Josh Allen was not. I know they aren’t similar, but his stats were worse at Wyoming…

I wish people would understand that Allen Is nowhere close to the norm in the nfl.   So much had to go right for him to get where he is.  

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I wish people would understand that Allen Is nowhere close to the norm in the nfl.   So much had to go right for him to get where he is.  

When we talk about “raw” prospects with huge upside, his name is going to come up. I don’t know why you can’t grasp that. He is THE definition of a QB who had all the tools physically and was groomed into success. Do we have the tools/staff to do that with Willis? I doubt it, but that is what teams are going for when they see him. It’s a copycat league. Most franchises are confident in their staff’s ability, some confident to a fault…

[Pejorative Miscreant]

So basically we are probably drafting a non RB/CB player at 6 or trading back.  
 

I can get on board with that.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

When we talk about “raw” prospects with huge upside, his name is going to come up. I don’t know why you can’t grasp that. He is THE definition of a QB who had all the tools physically and was groomed into success. Do we have the tools/staff to do that with Willis? I doubt it, but that is what teams are going for when they see him. It’s a copycat league. Most franchises are confident in their staff’s ability, some confident to a fault…

Quoting the wise old sage, Benny Hill...

They thought that it could not be done
Some even said they knew it
But he faced what they said could not be done...
And he couldn't bloody do it

The Panthers had success with and undersized, overaged linebacker in Sam Mills. But as much respect as I have for Sam, that's not a path I'd recommend pursuing again.

I've seen a lot of teams tell themselves that they could do a certain thing because they've seen someone else do it, and more often than not they're wrong.

It's always great when somebody does achieve something difficult or unusual, but there's generally a reason why it's looked at that way.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Mr. Scot