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22 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Ironic...Gettleman came here to clean up Hurney's mess, then he goes off to the Giants to create his own mess that their new GM has to come in and clean up.  The circle of life.  Poor Joe Schoen has his work cut out for him...what a disaster Gettleman was in NY.

With how it ended, Im too honest- Gettleman was worse than Herniay. No idea what happen, but he over-spent and drafted very poorly while giants GM. During his giant era, no team had better draft value in terms of picks. He wasted them on #2Barkley, #6Jones, #30Baker, and #33Hernandez. Just the whole group is awful, some even traded before bustin. First rounder Baker was cut year two, he traded(i think) a second to move up for him. Even talks of trading last years first rounder koney...... Even his 2-4 round picks were terrible. His free agent signing are the same or worse. They are in cap hell too. Thats bad whens theres no talent.....At least herniay yo-yo'd win seasons loss seasons, nyc dave was just a loser and that division was begging to be won.  

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15 minutes ago, Basbear said:

With how it ended, Im too honest- Gettleman was worse than Herniay. No idea what happen, but he over-spent and drafted very poorly while giants GM. During his giant era, no team had better draft value in terms of picks. He wasted them on #2Barkley, #6Jones, #30Baker, and #33Hernandez. Just the whole group is awful, some even traded before bustin. First rounder Baker was cut year two, he traded(i think) a second to move up for him. Even talks of trading last years first rounder koney...... Even his 2-4 round picks were terrible. His free agent signing are the same or worse. They are in cap hell too. Thats bad whens theres no talent.....At least herniay yo-yo'd win seasons loss seasons, nyc dave was just a loser and that division was begging to be won.  

It's hard to argue against the success of Gettleman's tenure here; his run as the Panthers' GM was objectively much more successful than Hurney's.  But if you're able to evaluate his individual performance as GM within the scope of his actual role, it gets a little more muddied.  People discredit Hurney's 1st round picks and say it's so easy to draft superstars in the 1st round, in particular the top 10...and yet look at those 1st round picks you've highlighted lol.  Also if you evaluate their entire body of work as an NFL GM, Hurney never had anywhere close to as bad of a 4-year stretch as Gettleman's in NY (19-46 overall).

I absolutely believe that Gettleman being hampered by our abysmal salary cap and not being able to afford to shop at Tiffany's was a blessing in disguise.  It seems like with the Panthers and Giants, the more money and flexibility Gettleman had, the more harm he did to his team.  His one big money FA signing for the Panthers?  Matt Kalil.

But yeah they both sucked, bottom line.

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30 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

It's hard to argue against the success of Gettleman's tenure here; his run as the Panthers' GM was objectively much more successful than Hurney's.  But if you're able to evaluate his individual performance as GM within the scope of his actual role, it gets a little more muddied.  People discredit Hurney's 1st round picks and say it's so easy to draft superstars in the 1st round, in particular the top 10...and yet look at those 1st round picks you've highlighted lol.  Also if you evaluate their entire body of work as an NFL GM, Hurney never had anywhere close to as bad of a 4-year stretch as Gettleman's in NY (19-46 overall).

I absolutely believe that Gettleman being hampered by our abysmal salary cap and not being able to afford to shop at Tiffany's was a blessing in disguise.  It seems like with the Panthers and Giants, the more money and flexibility Gettleman had, the more harm he did to his team.  His one big money FA signing for the Panthers?  Matt Kalil.

But yeah they both sucked, bottom line.

Yea panther Dave > Herniay

NYG&panther Dave <<< Herniay

Ruin them and had no success in a weak division. Panthers got awful old right after Dave got fired.....thats partly on him(tho he wanted to get rid of TD and olsen and that was right, 100% as it pains). NYG are just in awful shape and no reason for that to be. Again they had decent/good cap space and the best draft capital in the league. He failed both and left them without talent, no QB, and in the bloodly red. His WR choices should got him kicked out of USA.... Picked the wrong hawg hollies- had the choice pick of LTs and thus far picked the worse one(4th overall btw). 

Im enjoying both Finssserererers drafts and one of his FA hauls. Love how modern and aggressive he is. Dave and Herniay refused to do busniess with certain teams/GM....not the same the new guy. 

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4 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

Ironic...Gettleman came here to clean up Hurney's mess, then he goes off to the Giants to create his own mess that their new GM has to come in and clean up.  The circle of life.  Poor Joe Schoen has his work cut out for him...what a disaster Gettleman was in NY.

DG was so bad it made Hurney look good to Richardson. 

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On 5/4/2022 at 5:59 PM, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Yeah he was a good zone CB in his prime but with Horn, Henderson, and yeah even Donte Jackson we're built to run a man scheme

I am really really excited to see what this group of three can do if they are all healthy. 

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10 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

He didn't wash out. He was cut because of his cap hit.

He wouldn't have been a cap casualty of he was worth the money or a restructuring. He was not. I.E washed up. I'm sure he will probably do well with Rivera again. He's never been elite but he can be a reliable CB in a zone system. 

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