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How much would you trade for Baker for 1 year rental?


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I got us with 6 wins with Darnold and 9 wins with Baker.  Wins (either QB): Browns (minus Watson), Giants, Saints (home), Falcons (home), Seattle and Detroit.  Wins that Baker gives us over Darnold:  *49ers, Falcons (road) and Saints (road).

* A healthy Jimmy G isn't starting.

Now, one can question 'are those extra wins worth it for a one-year rental?'  For Matt Rhule, the answer is abso-freaking-lutley.

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The way I look at it:

1. If we trade for Baker …. Baker starts all season (unless injured), Corral does not play, Draft position 10-14 (which means no top QB for us) and we don’t know if Corral can play

2. No trade …. Darnold starts (does good), Corral doesn’t play, Draft about the same as Baker, but we still dont know if Corral can play.

3. No trade … Darnold starts and shits the bed again, Corral plays at least half the season, Draft 4-8, we know what we have in Corral so we know if we need one of the top QBs or can we trade down from there.

But all of this means …. Baker and Darnold, no matter if they do good or bad, no one will trust them with a big contract so they will be gone …. As of right now the 2023 QB room is Corral and PJ.

We need Corral to play, good or bad. If Corral does not play, we enter 2023 in QB hell for another year.

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23 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

 

We need Corral to play, good or bad. If Corral does not play, we enter 2023 in QB hell for another year.

That's a myth. Corral could;

1. Start all year, play like total cheeks like a lot of rookies do, then put together a decent career here or elsewhere.

2. Start the second half of the year play decently and give us hope, turn out to be totally meh year two, then knocks around the league a la Matt Moore

3. Starts all year and gives us the Justin Fields question mark, or worse, the Zack Wilson question mark with a bonus injury

4. Play all year, looks great and gives us the RG Kaepernik III effect. 

5. I could keep going, the possibilities are endless, but there is a downside to him playing when he's not ready. I know. Golden Corral picture, Tepper is reading.

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47 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

The way I look at it:

1. If we trade for Baker …. Baker starts all season (unless injured), Corral does not play, Draft position 10-14 (which means no top QB for us) and we don’t know if Corral can play

2. No trade …. Darnold starts (does good), Corral doesn’t play, Draft about the same as Baker, but we still dont know if Corral can play.

3. No trade … Darnold starts and shits the bed again, Corral plays at least half the season, Draft 4-8, we know what we have in Corral so we know if we need one of the top QBs or can we trade down from there.

But all of this means …. Baker and Darnold, no matter if they do good or bad, no one will trust them with a big contract so they will be gone …. As of right now the 2023 QB room is Corral and PJ.

We need Corral to play, good or bad. If Corral does not play, we enter 2023 in QB hell for another year.

Agreed and Baker makes it way more probable that Corral doesn’t see the field. You don’t make a trade for Mayfield to sit him. Darnold isn’t playing well so Corral gets enough reps to evaluate if we do nothing. Heck, we aren’t extending Darnold, so even if Corral is close enough, he’ll get the nod.

I keep saying this in other threads where people say the only way that Rhule stays is by getting Mayfield. That’s a bunch of crap. Rhule stays an NFL coach if Corral steps up and becomes a good QB. That’s the best option for Rhule. I don’t know if Rhule stays if we have to draft a first round QB in 2023.

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33 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Agreed and Baker makes it way more probable that Corral doesn’t see the field. You don’t make a trade for Mayfield to sit him. Darnold isn’t playing well so Corral gets enough reps to evaluate if we do nothing. Heck, we aren’t extending Darnold, so even if Corral is close enough, he’ll get the nod.

I keep saying this in other threads where people say the only way that Rhule stays is by getting Mayfield. That’s a bunch of crap. Rhule stays an NFL coach if Corral steps up and becomes a good QB. That’s the best option for Rhule. I don’t know if Rhule stays if we have to draft a first round QB in 2023.

And if Corral flops like most rookie QBs?  It seems you have the assumption that Corral performing adequte-to-decent is a given.  History has shown otherwise for rookie QBs, especially 3rd rounders.  I like Corral, but I'm going to err on the side of history in this case.  Just an aside, this roster is nowhere near the level that Dak Prescott and Russel Wilson found themselves in their rookie seasons.

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55 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Agreed and Baker makes it way more probable that Corral doesn’t see the field. You don’t make a trade for Mayfield to sit him. Darnold isn’t playing well so Corral gets enough reps to evaluate if we do nothing. Heck, we aren’t extending Darnold, so even if Corral is close enough, he’ll get the nod.

I keep saying this in other threads where people say the only way that Rhule stays is by getting Mayfield. That’s a bunch of crap. Rhule stays an NFL coach if Corral steps up and becomes a good QB. That’s the best option for Rhule. I don’t know if Rhule stays if we have to draft a first round QB in 2023.

I mean, Corral could look promising and we still not win games.  I think Rhule needs wins. 

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