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Coaches fired since 2020, Coaches on the hotseat in 2022, and Matt Rhule's record against all of them

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I wanted to see just how bad Matt stacked up head to head against the coaches that have been fired since he was hired back in 2020. The hot seat coaches I found were from various articles across the internet, with Matt Rhule being the number 1 candidate in all of them. I made a chart to better understand some things:

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Some Observations:

  • While the victory against the saints still counts for his win total, it did not count in favor of his head to head matchups since Payton was out with the Rona in week 2 of last year.
  • Of the 25 Coaches listed above, Matt Rhule has a worse win % (.294) than 22 of them. The two he played and beat were fired last season.
  • There are 4 games this year against guys on this list (2 Falcons, Seahawks, Cardinals) so there are more opportunities to get worse (or better if your an optimist).
  • Matt Rhule's only wins in his career have come against coaches who have either been fired, or are on the hot seat this season.
  • Much like at Baylor, a Matt Rhule Coached team has never beaten a quality opponent (unless you want to count NO last year week 2, but they still didn't make the playoffs sooooo not really).
  • If you lose to Matt Rhule, you will probably lose your job soon.

 

Tepper has inexplicably held on to Rhule for yet another season and no one knows why. You would think a Hedge fund Manager is aware of the Sunk Cost Fallacy, but here we are. Looks like it's going to be another long season homies.

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I accepted it after the first quarter yesterday.  I knew we would still have to overcome Rhule to have any degree of success this year, and that would've only been because of the sheer talent we have now.  And despite how cynical many of us are, I probably being among the most, they still found a way to make us sip a little bit of the offseason koolaid.

Well, that poo came crashing down fast in that first quarter, and I got that sinking pit in my stomach when the realization hit me - "He just wasted another year of our Fandom and our lives," desperately hoping for a winning season that Tepper elected to defer, yet again.  Disgusting.

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Interesting stuff, and always nice to see what ewe intuit so cleanly evident in hard data.

I've been pretty outspoken in my stance against retaining Rhule and don't have anything else to add. At this point the results speak for themselves and this season is young. There's no sense in even worrying about it because 2022 left the station long ago.

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Good stuff. Bringing the receipts and facts. 
 

Yesterday when it looked like Cleveland might blow us out, there was a about a ten second shot of Tepper sitting in his box shaking his head in disgust. That same head shake we all do when Ruhle does something donkeybrained, or when you see your neighbor park in your grass, etc. first time I can recall seeing that. Kudos to the producer who went to that shot. 

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2 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I mean, Bruce Arians and Sean Peyton weren't fired... They retired and are super bowl winning coaches that could get jobs today if they wanted... 

 

Man I would to have Payton here. I think he is a lock for the Cowboys because their coach might not make it thru the season either. 

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16 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I wanted to see just how bad Matt stacked up head to head against the coaches that have been fired since he was hired back in 2020. The hot seat coaches I found were from various articles across the internet, with Matt Rhule being the number 1 candidate in all of them. I made a chart to better understand some things:

image.png.7bca34b2b11afef5b4c76adbe2cdfc51.png

Some Observations:

  • While the victory against the saints still counts for his win total, it did not count in favor of his head to head matchups since Payton was out with the Rona in week 2 of last year.
  • Of the 25 Coaches listed above, Matt Rhule has a worse win % (.294) than 22 of them. The two he played and beat were fired last season.
  • There are 4 games this year against guys on this list (2 Falcons, Seahawks, Cardinals) so there are more opportunities to get worse (or better if your an optimist).
  • Matt Rhule's only wins in his career have come against coaches who have either been fired, or are on the hot seat this season.
  • Much like at Baylor, a Matt Rhule Coached team has never beaten a quality opponent (unless you want to count NO last year week 2, but they still didn't make the playoffs sooooo not really).
  • If you lose to Matt Rhule, you will probably lose your job soon.

 

Tepper has inexplicably held on to Rhule for yet another season and no one knows why. You would think a Hedge fund Manager is aware of the Sunk Cost Fallacy, but here we are. Looks like it's going to be another long season homies.

Appreciate you pulling this data together, although I think we should remove Payton and Arians since they weren't fired or ever on the hot seat. That skews the data pretty hard. 
 

Overall, nice work.

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4 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Oh totally. He still never beat either head to head, or any coach of quality for that matter. Zero wins against coaches that don't suck.

Yes, and to be clear, I'm not defending Rhule here, but the chart says "hot seat or fired" and taking away 7 loses to two of the best coaches available changes that stat significantly.

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Just now, TheWiz said:

I'm calling it now. Raheem Morris in 2023.

I’m really feeling we’re going to get a sh*tty overcorrection unless Tepper calls up a exec to help with the search.  If the Bears could own up and decide to have a search assist, I’d hope to think Tepper can do it as well.

Hopeful Tepper can figure out a GM/Coach that can allow him to sit back from the madness

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