Derek Carr anyone?

[joemac]

15 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Raiders will cut him and eat the $5M. I really don't see any team trading or grabbing him on waivers for $30M. We have like $1M in cap space currently, I don't think it would be worth the cap gymnastics to get him as our next journeyman QB for 2 years. I also don't see why anyone would even entertain the idea until after the draft

I think hes a little better than the journeyman title.  He has been considered a top 10 QB for the past 2 or 3 years now.  And its not like he had a terrible year this year.  He went for 61% - 3500 -24 -14.  Not great, but would still be the best QB season we've had here in ages.  Before that he put up really good numbers and led his team to the playoffs. Im not saying I want to pay him 35-40 mil a year, but he would immediately be the 2nd best QB this team has ever trotted out there.

[ECHornet]

41 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean I really just don't think you actually have watched Carr this year or any year if you think that.

Well, his own team deemed him unworthy of a $40 million dollar cap hit. So I have that supporting me.

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Well, his own team deemed him unworthy of a $40 million dollar cap hit. So I have that supporting me.

I just took a look at OverTheCap's valuation of Carr, and they have it at roughly $28.5M.  That is less than the roughly $40.5 he will be due on his current contract, but more than I'd be willing to give him.  But, somebody might.

Once he is a FA, I think we have to make the phone call.  I am just not optimistic that there would be a meeting of the minds, unless the response is "I always wanted to be a Panther, at almost any cost."

[mrcompletely11]

18 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

 

This is completely ass backwards.  Free agency opens in march and obviously the draft is in april.  No way he isnt signed by then to a team.

[Jackie Lee]

 

[NJPanthers89]

If Carr after he's cut is willing to take a one year prove it deal then i'm open to signing him if he will take $20-25 mill.  He can be a bridge QB to our newly drafted rookie 1st rounder, and significantly raise the level of play in the QB room.  This will also provide us insurance should we not land a rookie QB in April.  Let the potential rookie, Carr and Corral all fight it out, competition is good.  One of these 3 potential options has to hit lol.  I most certainly am not trading anything for Carr unless he's willing to redo his contract, and even then it would be nothing of value (like a 6th max).  

Edited January 12, 2023 by NJPanthers89

[Mr. Scot]

 

[outlaw4]

Carr could be the next Stafford, meaning he could be the final piece needed on a team that is ready for a deep playoff push.

...and that is not us. Too many flaws that need correcting.

[electro's horse]

Sign Derek Carr, trade up for Jalen Carter, begin a thousand year reign of terror on the NFC South.

Edited January 12, 2023 by electro's horse

[ECHornet]

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Sign Derek Carr, trade up for Jalen Carter, begin a thousand year reign of terror on the NFC South.

I think I'd throw up if we trade up for Jalen Carter. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by ECHornet

[Carl Spackler]

If there's a veteran QB you want: take his stats from last year, then divide the TD total by two, double the INT and sack total, and take out 2/5 of all passing yards. That's what they'll do here.

[Carl Spackler]

Realistically if someone like Carr had:

61% comp, 3500 yds, 24 TD, 14 INT

As a Panther, that translates to:

56% comp, 2400 yds, 12 TD, 18 INT

[Soul Rebel]

If Carr is released by Vegas and we can sign him at a lower number and maybe 3 years (w/option to void yr 3), I'd be much more interested. 

• Draft Johnston at 9 
• Draft a TE at 40 or 60
• Add another piece to our defense with our other R2 pick.

No draft picks given up to roll the dice on a draftee QB is my favorite part of this. 

We were a good NFL QB away from the playoffs. Carr can be our guy for the next two years, see if Corral develops and/or draft a QB in '24. Carr isn't elite, but he's a top-15 QB in the league and would do well with our OL and weapons. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Soul Rebel

[Matthias]

I'm good on Carr.  Does he have skills?  Yes.  Yet at the end of the day, I think he's peaked and is on a downhill trajectory.  Perhaps that actual QB we should be looking at, and I'm surprised to be thinking this way, is Daniel Jones.