Is it fair to discuss trading CMC / DJ

[Snake]

Just now, CRA said:

When I say a rebuild that doesn’t mean 100% of the roster gone.  Icky fits a rebuild. 

Burns is a solid DE but I don’t think every DC in the NFL would want him.  Not at his cap space.  Depends what you want to be on D. 

You need a player at every level. We have that. We could be better for sure but how Rivera left this roster it's not bad. This roster was trash after Rivera departed especially the defense and more or less has been rebuilt with some good young players. That's why Rhule needs to go and a real NFL HC needs to take over. We just need to complete the rebuild. Players like Shaq and Robbie need to go and would give us some cap relief. CMC and DJ are pretty much not cut or tradible but still least they are good players. 

[Jackie Lee]

The next coach may need to because somehow we're -$20M in cap space next year and have this to work with in the draft lol. What a horrible 3 years

 

[SCO96]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

The next coach may need to because somehow we're -$20M in cap space next year and have this to work with in the draft lol. What a horrible 3 years

 

Not really sweating about the loss of the 6th and 7th round picks. It would be nice to have a 3 since that appears to be a top 100 choice next year. I am concerned about that cap figure. Are we really $20 mil over the cap? I don’t see how hats possible with the roster we have.

[Daddy_Uncle]

I would trade anyone we can get value for

[shaq]

2 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Depends how far you think this team is from competing… I personally feel like this team could compete with a top QB (which at this point they are on track to get) and a good coaching staff.

Trading CMC and Moore for what would amount to early second round picks at the absolute best would set the franchise back further than what it already is. You aren’t replacing those two players with the picks that you are acquiring. This also isn’t a situation like Green Bay and Kansas City went through with their high end players. Those two teams have QB’s in place to withstand losses like that.

I feel like that having CMC and Moore would be a Godsend for a young QB.

My only hope is that we continue to suck due to our coaching staff and QB play and we get a shot at Stroud.

Would you rather have Stroud or Bryce?

[shaq]

1 minute ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I would trade anyone we can get value for

What’s Rhules asking price? 

[Jackie Lee]

4 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Not really sweating about the loss of the 6th and 7th round picks. It would be nice to have a 3 since that appears to be a top 100 choice next year. I am concerned about that cap figure. Are we really $20 mil over the cap? I don’t see how hats possible with the roster we have.

It's looking like -10 now for whatever reasons, but a lot of money tied up in mid vets. 

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Contracted Players (40 total)

Player	Base Salary	Prorated Bonus	Roster Bonus		Workout Bonus	Other Bonus		Guaranteed Salary		Cap Number		Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension
			Regular	Per Game
Shaq Thompson	$12,360,000	$11,276,334	$0	$500,000	$300,000	$0		$0		$24,463,334		$11,276,334	$13,187,000
Robbie Anderson	$8,800,000	$9,719,168	$3,000,000	$0	$200,000	$0		$0		$21,719,168		$9,719,168	$12,000,000
Christian McCaffrey	$11,800,000	$7,550,750	$0	$0	$200,000	$0		$0		$19,550,750		$18,352,250	$1,198,500
Taylor Moton	$11,000,000	$6,741,250	$6,600,000	$0	$200,000	$0		$11,000,000		$24,541,250		$31,223,750	($6,682,500)
Derrick Brown	$2,331,100	$3,684,801	$1,500,000	$0	$0	$0		$3,831,100		$7,515,901		$7,515,901	$0
D.J. Moore	$19,965,000	$4,875,000	$0	$0	$200,000	$0		$19,965,000		$25,040,000		$35,700,000	($10,660,000)
Donte Jackson	$4,722,500	$3,666,666	$4,000,000	$1,700,000	$200,000	$0		$4,722,500		$14,289,666

[ClawOn]

Trading for the sake of trading is not a winning strategy 

[YourLastThought]

5 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Trading for the sake of trading is not a winning strategy 

Please tell that to our morons in charge.

[Jackie Lee]

10 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Trading for the sake of trading is not a winning strategy 

Trading away picks vs trading for picks are 2 different things. We traded ourselves into a situation where we have like 4-5 draft picks for a couple years and nothing to show for it. 

[MillionDollarCam]

28 minutes ago, shaq said:

Would you rather have Stroud or Bryce?

I prefer Stroud, I’ve watched him a lot and I think his NFL trajectory will be similar to Herbert’s.

Cristobal didn’t really allow Herbert to use his legs in college and many kind of feel like Day might be asking Stroud not to run either. In my opinion, Stroud is definitely mobile and I think we’ll see it at the next level.

Both QB’s are extremely accurate but I think Stroud is slightly more accurate and I like his intermediate throw percentage a tad better than Young’s. I think Stroud really separates himself with his arm strength as I feel like he can make every NFL throw and his arm strength is as good as Malik Willis’ was last year. I also think Stroud’s release his right up there with Corral’s. And for those that are worried about Stroud being just another OSU QB and comparing him to Fields, Stroud’s release is milessss ahead of Fields’ and being a pure pocket passer, Stroud reads the field much better than Fields does. I don’t think the players are even remotely similar.

All in all, both Stroud and Young have a chance at being really good QB’s but I’d prefer Stroud. I also have a lot of questions about Young’s durability.

Edited October 3, 2022 by MillionDollarCam

[trueblade]

I keep coming back to the 2019 Dolphins. They traded some good players, acquired quality picks including multiple first rounders. But they are a competitive team now, though without Tua they might struggle.

[Stuart Smith]

No. They are not the problem. 

[Day1PanthersFan]

I would trade CMC out of respect , he should experience success with a relevant team before he retires, and we are years and years away from that, look at how many years Matt Stafford wasted with a bad organization, he gets traded to a good one and what do you know, superbowl, that shows you even top tier talent can't overcome terrible coaching staffs and front offices 

It's also the same reason I am glad Cam didn't get pulled back into this nightmare , Superman 1 is better off making YouTube videos than being a lamb to the slaughter for this bad joke of a coaching staff and owner