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I must say, the whole Sam/Baker splitting reps during TC is starting to make sense now.

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

Baker did legit beat him out in camp, playing against our own defense. Against teams that actually game plan I don't think either guy is going to be in a position to succeed. We'd have average dudes like Cousins/Carr etc looking just as bad

I have to disagree with you there. Granted the calls are not helping, the qb play is 75% of the disfunction with this offense. 

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I have to disagree with you there. Granted the calls are not helping, the qb play is 75% of the disfunction with this offense. 

I agree on the face value, but it's just too big of a trend under this staff for me. Baker never looked this bad, Sam somehow looked a little better with Jets

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33 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Would not surprise me if Rhule didn't start Baker sooner than he wanted to out of pressure from the fanbase more than anything.  It never made sense to me for them to get Baker in the first place.  He wasn't going to change the trajectory of this team this season. 

Baker with McAdoo's offense never made sense. Baker is exactly the type of QB you don't want. 

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1 hour ago, panthersgreenville said:

I know we all said how it was all theatre and the QB “competition” was a joke, but IF by some 1 in a billion chance we start Sam and he looks good, maybe the whole QB competition wasn’t theater after all and the coaches knew something we didn’t?! 

Trash take. Don't give this staff credit they're clueless

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