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QB Showcase: The Non-Stroud/Young/Levis Crowd


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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In regards to McCall I think you are way off.  His accuracy and ability to throw off platform is top notch.  The knock that I have before the season is he didnt have the strength to push the ball downfield but they are doing that in the games I have watched.  Will be interesting once the dust settles on what the scouts think.

 

I still stand by my theory that the new staff will pick richardson around pick 5

What you also have to mention with McCall is his moxie, the kid just seems to have the IT factor if you ever watch him.  He basically wills his team to wins.  Yes, you can say they play lesser competition, but that same competition has beaten power 5 schools on the regular lately and to add to that, he is playing with players that don't have the talent of an Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, etc.  So, he is doing all this, because he is GOOD, not because he has NFL talent at every position around him.  I'm sold on McCall, would not be mad at all if we traded back, picked up some draft capital and picked him up.

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4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

The hype of this draft class leaves me with the feeling it could be empty hype.... there are more knocks than promotions of these potential top 3 QBs.  

Levis yes, but if a team doesn't mind Bryce's height, he's got all the tools in the world.  Absolutely love that kid's game.  For every Baker/Johnny/Kyler, there's a Brees/Frank (and dare I say Jalen?)

CJ, the OSU stain scares me more than height lol

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2 minutes ago, saX man said:

Levis yes, but if a team doesn't mind Bryce's height, he's got all the tools in the world.  Absolutely love that kid's game.  For every Baker/Johnny/Kyler, there's a Brees/Frank (and dare I say Jalen?)

CJ, the OSU stain scares me more than height lol

Jalen is built like a rock though. Bryce Young is going to destroyed when he gets hit in this league. Bryce Young is nowhere near what his measurables state on ESPN.com (6' 194)... Id think he is more 5'11 170. Its terrfying how small he is. 

 

This is a photo of him with Tyler Harrell who is listd to be the exact same height and size as Young.....
Bryce Young, Alabama, Quarterback

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1 hour ago, saX man said:

 

Hendon Hooker

6'4 218 Tennessee (5-yr Hokie transfer), will be 25 y/o on draft day

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Here's the latest bretheren to boom out of nowhere this season.  Always looked the part at VT but that team and program did him no favors.  Now a Volunteer, he is rocking this season.  Not being asked to do a ton that is asked of NFL QBs, a bit watered down system but he is dynamic.  He straight up willed the team to the PITT win and has been dominating teams ever since.  He's risen to a near 1st rounder but with his age, he needs to be ready to rock year 1.  He's only a few months younger than Sam Darnold lol. 

Sax Take: Round 1-Top of Round 2

 

We need to watch this week's game.  Tennessee plays Alabama in Knoxville.  I've seen spots of their games and he looks good.   I am sure his stock will rise quite a bit if he plays well this weekend.   

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

5'10 180lbs and a top 5 pick is a recipe for disaster.  You would have to have big brass balls as a gm to saddle yourself and your job on to that

That's my concern too.  His injury a couple of weeks ago was a simple play.  He didn't get destroyed by a defender and still hurt himself.   When, not if, he gets sacked by one of these great DE in the league he's going to get crushed.   No matter how good he may be if he's on the sideline recovering from injury it doesn't help your team much.

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