Burns is probably going to be traded right?

[Newtcase]

Shaq and Burns can go.  Brown, Horn, Luvu and Chinn are the building blocks on defense.  
 

We also have the second most important offensive position covered with Icky IMO.  Everyone else on the offensive side could go for the right price.

We need to accept that this year and next year is about acquiring young talent and the right coaching staff.  The rebuild is on and if we half cook it then it’s gonna be another decade before we have a chance to contend.  

Edited October 21, 2022 by Newtcase

[Dragoon11]

Nope... not a first rounder for an undersized, more 3-4 oriented DE that is not a good run stopper.

For a 1st rounder it would have to be DJ.

Edited October 21, 2022 by Dragoon11

[Fox007]

No, could see Shaq and that's about it. Makes sense to try to get something for a RB that could have production replaced in any round. Burns has issues but getting to the Passer is always a premium and ideally Burns would even be a 3rd guy but you still keep him.

We need more pass rushers not less. 

The DJax contract is/was just so fkn dumb lol. We don't sign actual good corners like James Bradberry who is cutting it up on the 6-0 Eagles....I remember when ppl were talking like that man wasn't a legit CB1....just lol.
 

[Krovvy]

They're not going to trade Burns or Moore unless the unthinkable happens and the team finishes outside the top five picks or so. If that's the case and they think they can leapfrog a team for a quarterback they covet, then you I could see them moving either player.

Unlikely scenario, but it's one way it could happen.

Edited October 21, 2022 by Krovvy

[CPF4LIFE]

3 hours ago, firefox1234 said:

Fair point. But like I said what is the end game here. We are 2 years(if we are lucky) to 5 years of being a competitive team. What is the end game?

Dude...nobody can answer this. Yes rebuild is comin, but if you keep your core and add an elite qb prospect with the right coaching hire maybe you lower that timeframe far as competing but its not something that can be determined right now. Burns has another year, you see how things work with new staff then make a determination.

Edited October 21, 2022 by CPF4LIFE

[panthers_fan_in_tx]

Rodgers need a wr1.  Cmon green bay!   Pay up for dj!

[ForJimmy]

A young premium position player that is one if the top in the league? Nah I think we extend or tag him because he can be a great foundation for our defense. Burns, Brown, Horn, and Chinn are our pieces for next year’s defense. Icky, Moton, Corbett, possibly BC, and Moore are our pieces for offense. 

[Carl Spackler]

7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

What coach is going to want to go to a franchise with no good players and no cap room, you can only do so much in the draft.

A coach who matches the owner and the GM: trash. 

[stan786]

You keep burns unless you get two firsts.  Feel like this chat doesn’t understand the difference between trading aging vets on bad deals and the value of ascending talents.  Shaq, CMC, Robby, etc yeah you can move them because their contracts are garbage next year and the years after, you are rebuilding take the dead money hit and cap savings and get value out of them.  Burns, Horn, Brown, etc that’s exactly the players you want to build around after this money clears you can extend them and fit them in the cap puzzle/strategy going forward.  Everyone should be able to be traded for but you don’t trade young guys just to trade them.

[KillerKat]

Burns and Moore are our core and are at positions that are crucial for a team. A RB is more easily replaced. Thats why CMC was traded. Burns and Moore shouldnt.

[stan786]

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

A coach who matches the owner and the GM: trash. 

That’s silly, we have plenty to offer a coach coming in.  A Good Oline, some nice defensive building blocks at the most important positions, probably the first pick to get whatever his QB is, and now we’ve stocked the pantry full of draft picks so he can build the team his way. 

[KillerKat]

3 minutes ago, stan786 said:

You keep burns unless you get two firsts.  Feel like this chat doesn’t understand the difference between trading aging vets on bad deals and the value of ascending talents.  Shaq, CMC, Robby, etc yeah you can move them because their contracts are garbage next year and the years after, you are rebuilding take the dead money hit and cap savings and get value out of them.  Burns, Horn, Brown, etc that’s exactly the players you want to build around after this money clears you can extend them and fit them in the cap puzzle/strategy going forward.  Everyone should be able to be traded for but you don’t trade young guys just to trade them.

Exactly

[TheRumGone]

Two firsts is the minimum for burns. Anyone can say what they want that he’s just a pass rush specialist or whatever but his position is one of the most valuable outside of qb and lt.

I don’t think he’s going anywhere.

[Carl Spackler]

6 minutes ago, stan786 said:

That’s silly, we have plenty to offer a coach coming in.  A Good Oline, some nice defensive building blocks at the most important positions, probably the first pick to get whatever his QB is, and now we’ve stocked the pantry full of draft picks so he can build the team his way. 

I’m sure he’ll enjoy 0-17 quite well. No offensive skill position players once they inevitably trade Moore, no defensive backfield and no linebackers. Might score 30 points next season.