I’m starting to turn on Fitterer

[TheBigKat]

At first I thought, wow what a breath of fresh air in comparison to Hurney / Gettleman

 

 Horn pick, very high for a corner and the majority of folks on here wanted Parsons. Micah is on his way to being DPOY in year 2

Trading for Gilmore/Henderson- this team was not ready to compete. Gilmore came as a 1 year rental for no reason and Henderson is a JAG. That’s costly draft capital

signing Jackson/Thomas- these guys are nowhere close to the contracts they received 

Not trading Moore- a solid #2 who isn’t a stud #1 WR to a team that is sitting at 3-5. We basically would have had a top 12 pick for Moore

 

Not trading Burns- a guy who is Osi Umenyoria who will be paid as the highest paid DE here soon and has never posted double digit sacks. Getting 2 firsts and a second from a team that’s falling off the Cliff talent wise and under .500, this would have been two top 12 picks and a high second for the Panthers

 

I give him a pass on Mayfield- we didn’t spend a lot on that experiment 

i give him an A on Eke

 

 overall my opinion of Fitterer is unfortunately fading as the next coming of Ozzie Newsome and more so of a Thomas Dimitrioff

[Chad_Cota]

We will never know how much of this has to do with Rhule. He had roster control. 

[year of the snitch]

it's nice to have an active GM where you feel like you're in on every deal and are willing to make moves unlike previous MGMT.

but so far it does feel like he has missed on more moves than he has hit on them.

shooters shoot I guess, this offseason should be the 4th quarter for him though.

[Wolfcop]

He was the man until Burnsgate. Now I have my doubts. 

[Sgt Schultz]

Just now, Chad_Cota said:

We will never know how much of this has to do with Rhule. He had roster control. 

That is my hurdle on figuring out what was Fitterer and what was The Process.  That line is just unrecognizable until October 10. 

Even after October 10, we have no idea what role Tepper played in the decisions leading to the CMC deal or Burns non-deal. 

Organizationally, we are a mess.

[kungfoodude]

His grading starts with the firing of Matt Rhule, IMO.

He has two big wins, in trading Anderson and CMC.

Then there is the albatross of passing up on a Russell Wilson sized haul for Brian Burns. If Burns doesn't become an elite DE, he might be riding his way out of Carolina on that kind of L.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Sgt Schultz said:

That is my hurdle on figuring out what was Fitterer and what was The Process.  That line is just unrecognizable until October 10. 

Even after October 10, we have no idea what role Tepper played in the decisions leading to the CMC deal or Burns non-deal. 

Organizationally, we are a mess.

we are a clown show with no vision and no plan for the future, we are a 3 ring circus that thinks we have a team that can win year in and year out

[SmokinwithWilly]

I'm still not sure how much Tepper is involved in decisions. We've seen him force his will for Watson on the FO, and how that turned out. Fitts has said he speaks with Tepper about things, which one could expect. My only concern is how much influence is Tepper exerting over personnel decisions. Ultimately, Fitts will take the fall when things go wrong. I think over the next few years we'll find out how much he really is involved and then be able to look back objectively at some of these moves. I have to admit I'm not a fan of the Burns non trade. 

[uncfan888]

If he had traded burns for that haul and then turned around and flipped them for Lamar.. 

 

But he didn't. So he sucks 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

If he had traded burns for that haul and then turned around and flipped them for Lamar.. 

 

But he didn't. So he sucks 

It was so fuging short sighted turning down those picks for both burns and moore.  fug that fat moron

Edited November 9, 2022 by mrcompletely11

[frankw]

It's been a week now if anyone wants to spend the next several months all the way up to the draft shouting at clouds over the Burns trade that's their choice but I'm good on all that. It didn't happen move on. It's hard to say if the Horn pick was him or Rhule. One or both of them had been extremely hesitant to try and develop a rookie quarterback. Based on how Matt Rhule handled Corral's first TC I will assume it was mostly him. But the in on every deal mentality is used car salesman talk and that's been Fitterer's whole identity to this point. What's it gotten us though? Is there a real plan? We are not trading our way out of this. Add to the pieces we have in place and find the right coaching staff to maximize the talent here and develop rookies with those picks we got from the McCaffrey trade. In the meantime we look to be hopefully locking in a top 3 pick. I can live with it.

[Shotgun]

10 minutes ago, Chad_Cota said:

We will never know how much of this has to do with Rhule. He had roster control. 

Rhule drafted Ikem at least. Great move by him.

[Icege]

Stop wearing draft picks around him then

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's been a week now if anyone wants to spend the next several months all the way up to the draft shouting at clouds over the Burns trade that's their choice but I'm good on all that. It didn't happen move on. It's hard to say if the Horn pick was him or Rhule. One or both of them had been extremely hesitant to try and develop a rookie quarterback. Based on how Matt Rhule handled Corral's first TC I will assume it was mostly him. But the in on every deal mentality is used car salesman talk and that's been Fitterer's whole identity to this point. What's it gotten us though? Is there a real plan? We are not trading our way out of this. Add to the pieces we have in place and find the right coaching staff to maximize the talent here and develop rookies with those picks we got from the McCaffrey trade. In the meantime we look to be hopefully locking in a top 3 pick. I can live with it.

The cmac and burns trade (and probably the moore one as well) are the first major tangible (non)moves that we can tie to fitt.  Its something that we can track as good or bad in regards to him.   No matter what happens now he is going to be matched up with not taking that. 

When the rams tank for the next 3 years he is going to look like an idiot.  When the packers have a top 10 pick this year he is going to look like an idiot and there will be no matt rhule to blame.

 

The cmac was a no brainer

The moore trade was debatable but he probably should have done it

The Burns trade isnt even a debate.

 

The draft capital he could have walked with could have set us up nicely for a true rebuild

Edited November 9, 2022 by mrcompletely11