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Report: Panthers to interview Jim Caldwell, Frank Reich

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Caldwell and Reich did have three winning seasons and one losing season with two play off appearances in four full seasons as the head coaches of Detroit and Indianapolis. Caldwell had QB stability with Stafford, while Reich had to deal with QB instability.

Reich had a hard time with the Colts. Year one be worked with Andrew Luck and after going 1-1 in the play offs, their future looked fairly bright, then Luck decided to retire in August leaving him with Hoyer/Brissett for year two. In year three they went out and go Philip Rivers, he last one year before calling it a day. Who came next? Carson Wenz, no need to say much more. Then this season they went for Matt Ryan hoping he’d do for them what Rivers did, he didn’t, and it cost Reich his job (not their GM). During all of this QB instability and some questionable drafting, their Gm has held onto his job. I have to give Reich credit for having to deal with this QB situation. Things could have worked out differently for him had Luck continued to play. In his next chance, he needs QB stability.

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smh....how sway????

 

the saying goes for us: one's man trash is our garbage  

...sidenote* Tepper needs to think about this team like his wife...you want to settle for some one who's been ran through...or find a new beauty no one knew about until you discover her...and even if she leaves you after using you to gain more for herself...remember you hit that first

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5 hours ago, Mike2.0 said:

Caldwell and Reich did have three winning seasons and one losing season with two play off appearances in four full seasons as the head coaches of Detroit and Indianapolis. Caldwell had QB stability with Stafford, while Reich had to deal with QB instability.

Rhule had a hard time with the Panthers. Year one be worked with Teddy Bridgewater and after going 1-1 in the play offs(well it was Teddy), their future looked fairly bright, then Teddy decided to retire(leave) in August leaving him with PJWalker/Will Grier for year two. In year three(really 2nd but hey..) they went out and go Sam Darnold, he last one year before calling it a day. Who came next? Baker Mayfield, no need to say much more. Then this season(imagine this all over again..) they went for ? hoping he’d do for them what Teddy did, he didn’t, and it cost Rhule his job (not their GM). During all of this QB instability and some questionable drafting, their Gm has held onto his job. I have to give Rhule credit for having to deal with this QB situation. Things could have worked out differently for him had Teddy/Cam continued to play. In his next chance, he needs QB stability.

hopefully that's not here

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8 hours ago, WOW!! said:

This is the situation most years.. Andy Reid doesn’t grow on trees

Or do they grow on trees?

Paul Brown produced Blanton Collier and Weeb Ewbank with the Browns and Bill Walsh with the Bengals.

Bill Walsh produced Mike Holmgren, Brian Billick via Denny Green, Pete Carroll via Wyche/Coslet and George Seifert with the 49ers.

Mike Holmgren produced Andy Reid and Jon Gruden with the Packers. 

Jon Gruden produced Mike Tomlin and Sean McVay via Jay Gruden with the Bucs.

Andy Reid produced John Harbaugh with the Eagles and Doug Pederson with the Chiefs.

11 of the last 26 SB winning coaches. So, if you want 1 of every 2 SB winning coaches, you obviously follow this line because they understand how to win.  

If you are maintaining a team, you go with extremely seasoned defensive coaches in this line. If you need to build up a bad team, you go with the offensive minded coaches in this line that have sat in with the QB and/or TE development during their coaching career. Go with the coaches that began their early NFL coaching careers under the Paul Brown coaching tree.

I've been watching this coach on the Paul Brown line since 2018. I wanted him as the Panthers' coach for the 2020 season after he helped develop Mahomes under Andy Reid for a SB Championship. He is still available and has since went on to turn the Giants passing game around and resurrect Daniel Jones in a single season.

A team should want their next HC to be Mike Kafka if they play it smart. Kafka can obviously turn a QB around in 1 to 2 years and have a team in the playoffs/contending in 2 to 3 seasons.

Mike Kafka HC, Johnny Holland DC, Shea Tierney OC

Best of the Chiefs, 49ers, and Bills right here with young offensive minds influenced by the Chiefs under Reid and the Bills under McDermott.

If you are unfamiliar with Tierney (NC State guy), he has studied and/or contributed to the development of Mike Glennon, Nick Foles, Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa, Josh Allen, and now the miracle turn around of Daniel Jones (4 of these QBs are leading teams in the 2022 playoffs and Nick Foles has won a SB). Throw in Kafka's development of Mahomes and these 2 young offensive minds know everything there is to know about 5 of the QBs and how they were developed in the 2022 NFL playoffs.

So, they do kinda grow on trees - coaching trees. You just need to know how to find them.

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7 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Or do they grow on trees?

Paul Brown produced Blanton Collier and Weeb Ewbank with the Browns and Bill Walsh with the Bengals.

Bill Walsh produced Mike Holmgren, Brian Billick via Denny Green, Pete Carroll via Wyche/Coslet and George Seifert with the 49ers.

Mike Holmgren produced Andy Reid and Jon Gruden with the Packers. 

Jon Gruden produced Mike Tomlin and Sean McVay via Jay Gruden with the Bucs.

Andy Reid produced John Harbaugh with the Eagles and Doug Pederson with the Chiefs.

11 of the last 26 SB winning coaches. So, if you want 1 of every 2 SB winning coaches, you obviously follow this line because they understand how to win.  

If you are maintaining a team, you go with extremely seasoned defensive coaches in this line. If you need to build up a bad team, you go with the offensive minded coaches in this line that have sat in with the QB and/or TE development during their coaching career. Go with the coaches that began their early NFL coaching careers under the Paul Brown coaching tree.

I've been watching this coach on the Paul Brown line since 2018. I wanted him as the Panthers' coach for the 2020 season after he helped develop Mahomes under Andy Reid for a SB Championship. He is still available and has since went on to turn the Giants passing game around and resurrect Daniel Jones in a single season.

A team should want their next HC to be Mike Kafka if they play it smart. Kafka can obviously turn a QB around in 1 to 2 years and have a team in the playoffs/contending in 2 to 3 seasons.

Mike Kafka HC, Johnny Holland DC, Shea Tierney OC

Best of the Chiefs, 49ers, and Bills right here with young offensive minds influenced by the Chiefs under Reid and the Bills under McDermott.

If you are unfamiliar with Tierney (NC State guy), he has studied and/or contributed to the development of Mike Glennon, Nick Foles, Jalen Hurts, Tua Tagovailoa, Josh Allen, and now the miracle turn around of Daniel Jones (4 of these QBs are leading teams in the 2022 playoffs and Nick Foles has won a SB). Throw in Kafka's development of Mahomes and these 2 young offensive minds know everything there is to know about 5 of the QBs and how they were developed in the 2022 NFL playoffs.

So, they do kinda grow on trees - coaching trees. You just need to know how to find them.

Agreed, they do kinda grow on trees, but the difficulty can be finding the right one because for every successful offspring, there are plenty of ones that don’t make the grade. 

Will Kafka be the next top head coach or the next guy to not make the step up?

Hard to predict. The advantage he’s got over Matt Nagy, another coach boosted by Mahomes and Reid, is Kafka has helped Daniel Jones. It would certainly be interesting to see if he makes the step up or not.

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