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9th pick set in stone

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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Just now, Navy_football said:

Reaching for a QB in the draft is the absolute worst thing this team could do. If our guy isn't available with #9, then get the DE, LB, WR or TE that will start for the next 5+ seasons. That's a win in my book. Take a chance with a 2nd or 3rd if you want, but be sure with the 1st and the HC. Everything else will work out.

Who starts qb in that scenario?

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32 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Neither is a RB, but yet you listed one.  Levis will be gone.  So Johnston it is.

I agree that Johnston would be a good selection. And we should take him if he falls to us. But several outlets I’ve read consider Robinson as probably the best overall player in this draft. If he’s BPA and a blue chip prospect, then he’ll be considered a top #10 pick. And for a team that plays the style we play, a bell cow RB that’s also a good receiver on a rookie contract is not bad value. 

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30 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I’m not against Johnston at 9 depending on our QB situation. I’m very much against a TE in the top 10. Name a franchise that has done that recently with success. 

There have only been 5 tight ends taken in the top ten in the last 20 years. 4 of the 5 made at least one pro bowl, with Pitts being the only one that didn't/hasn't. Too early to call him a bust but it hasn't been a great start for the #4 pick.

I agree the return wasn't necessarily top 10 value for those 5. Kellen Winslow II, Vernon Davis, Eric Ebron, TJ Hockenson, and Kyle Pitts. I think Mayer projects to be a more complete TE than those guys who were mainly flashy receiving threats.

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There have only been 5 tight ends taken in the top ten in the last 20 years. 4 of the 5 made at least one pro bowl, with Pitts being the only one that didn't/hasn't. Too early to call him a bust but it hasn't been a great start for the #4 pick.

I agree the return wasn't necessarily top 10 value for those 5. Kellen Winslow II, Vernon Davis, Eric Ebron, TJ Hockenson, and Kyle Pitts. I think Mayer projects to be a more complete TE than those guys who were mainly flashy receiving threats.

Pro bowl doesn’t mean poo

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Just now, Navy_football said:

Whoever wins the position battle in training camp.

Again, improve the TEAM and the coaching staff. They can control those things. The QB position will work itself out.

How?  How will the qb position work itself out?  fuging a we have tried that 3 years now.   It doesn’t work like that.  

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Pro bowl doesn’t mean poo

Did you read the rest? I didn't say it justified their top 10 selection.

If you think you have a Kelce or a Kittle type at #9, I don't mind drafting a TE late in the top 10. Especially if that position is a huge weakness on your team.

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2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

There have only been 5 tight ends taken in the top ten in the last 20 years. 4 of the 5 made at least one pro bowl, with Pitts being the only one that didn't/hasn't. Too early to call him a bust but it hasn't been a great start for the #4 pick.

I agree the return wasn't necessarily top 10 value for those 5. Kellen Winslow II, Vernon Davis, Eric Ebron, TJ Hockenson, and Kyle Pitts. I think Mayer projects to be a more complete TE than those guys who were mainly flashy receiving threats.

So the Lions with Ebron and Hock. How have they been since then? Just traded Hock to a rival this year. Falcons with Pitts? They still suck years later. The other ones are retired by now.   

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