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Wilks / Fitterer Season Ending Presser

Mr. Scot

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Regarding roster needs...

Agree with 4MR's suggestion or not? 🤔

Agree on the ball hawking FS but Chinn is NOT a LB. His best position is an in-the-box SS for run defense, blitzing and some coverage e.g. TE. He’s not a FS as he’s below average in coverage. The sooner we can get a bonafide FS the better and the sooner we. An play Chinn at his natural position.

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6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think they need 2 pass rushers but you can't get them both in this draft. 

You can never have enough pass rushers, but I think the biggest issue is that YGM & Haynes are decent rotational guys but not at a starter level.

I think we would be fine at edge rusher (injuries notwithstanding) if we can sign or draft a starting level edge rusher to pair with Burns.

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4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

No just 2. I still don't think we really have any to speak of. I don't count Burns as any better than the other guys trying to play end for us. It's just not good enough.

My formula at DE is typically to have one big pass rusher while number two is a more complete type.

Think Peppers and Rucker...

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

My formula at DE is typically to have one big pass rusher while number two is a more complete type.

Think Peppers and Rucker...

I agree but we have neither.  Burns in my book is just another rotational end. He's just not worth paying top 10 salary to keep.  You will never convince me otherwise. 

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32 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

Agree on the ball hawking FS but Chinn is NOT a LB. His best position is an in-the-box SS for run defense, blitzing and some coverage e.g. TE. He’s not a FS as he’s below average in coverage. The sooner we can get a bonafide FS the better and the sooner we. An play Chinn at his natural position.

Absolutely. I wish they would play him at his natural position.

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