Tepper clearly wants to change the Panthers identity

[TheCasillas]

Getting Wilks offensive plan first, will allow Tepper/Fitt to play it back against the rest of the OCs to see how advanced/basic it is.  The order of the interviews is becoming more intentional each day that goes by.

[Carl Spackler]

This next hire will be really set up well to take a HC job with a P5 school in three years.

[Bear Hands]

Wilks could be talking to Tepper at this very moment.  Big morning in the QC

[Wanderlai]

Being a Panthers fan makes me want to change my identify to lol

[BrianS]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not honestly sure what kind of coach I'd classify Rhule as.

Rhule is a recruiter and administrator.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, BrianS said:

Rhule is a recruiter and administrator.

Which basically translates to "college coach".

[panthers55]

Just now, Bear Hands said:

Yeah gotta keep reasonable expectations no matter the hire.  This past season was a refreshing change, can be credited to some walking into pretty good situations.  Though I do give each a ton of credit.  Daboll especially. 

O'Connell 13-4

Daboll 10-7

McDaniel 9-8

 

It cuts both way you also have Kingbury. Lovie Smith, Eberflus, Dennis Allen among others flaming out. The Daboll success is what folks will remember and say let's do it. They don't remember that most new coaches struggle particularly with no extensive NFL experience or head coach experience.

[UNCrules2187]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

If we pick someone with no head coach experience expect to be mediocre again. The winning percentage for new first time head coaches is around  42% their first year.

Not sure why you think retread HCs are any better:

 

https://pro-football-history.com/blog/10/18/redemption-or-retread

[mrcompletely11]

If nothing else Kafka sounds intriguing

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

Not sure why you think retread HCs are any better:

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https://pro-football-history.com/blog/10/18/redemption-or-retread

They aren't that much better. But in Wilkes case you have real experience with the team and know he can win. With new guys with no proven experience it is a crap shoot. Still that is what folks want. Instead of taking a coach who could deliver solid but unspectacular results we go for the unknown since he could be great even if history says he wont.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, panthers55 said:

They aren't that much better. But in Wilkes case you have real experience with the team and know he can win. With new guys with no proven experience it is a crap shoot. Still that is what folks want. Instead of taking a coach who could deliver solid but unspectacular results we go for the unknown since he could be great even if history says he wont.

If you know he is "solid but unspectacular" why in the hell wouldnt you want to roll the dice to get spectacular? Simply being good enough has been what this franchise has settled for since its inception

[Bear Hands]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

It cuts both way you also have Kingbury. Lovie Smith, Eberflus, Dennis Allen among others flaming out. The Daboll success is what folks will remember and say let's do it. They don't remember that most new coaches struggle particularly with no extensive NFL experience or head coach experience.

Yep.  Can imagine some of these guys will have certain things down, but then there's probably a ton of nuances that they can only improve upon with experience and having the right guys around them.  Some of these guys have been around some pretty esteemed or diverse staffs, others, do have quite brief stints so far. Daboll is a good example of a guy that interfaced with a ton of different coaching trees and circles.  Has likely built off some great mentors and experience.  

Then you look at Steichen; he was pretty much with Mike McCoy, Frank Reich and Siriani his whole career.  It's a pretty siloed group.  And he's supposedly a pretty awkward guy.  Is he really a guy that can manage things Monday through Thursday?  

Interesting questions to rummage through this fine Tuesday

[panthers55]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

If you know he is "solid but unspectacular" why in the hell wouldnt you want to roll the dice to get spectacular? Simply being good enough has been what this franchise has settled for since its inception

Because there is a 60% chance he won't even be solid.

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Because there is a 60% chance he won't even be solid.

So you would simply rather hire the .500 coach?  poo man that doesnt make a lick of sense