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Tepper clearly wants to change the Panthers identity

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Just now, Bear Hands said:

Yeah gotta keep reasonable expectations no matter the hire.  This past season was a refreshing change, can be credited to some walking into pretty good situations.  Though I do give each a ton of credit.  Daboll especially. 

O'Connell 13-4

Daboll 10-7

McDaniel 9-8

 

It cuts both way you also have Kingbury. Lovie Smith, Eberflus, Dennis Allen among others flaming out. The Daboll success is what folks will remember and say let's do it. They don't remember that most new coaches struggle particularly with no extensive NFL experience or head coach experience.

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Not sure why you think retread HCs are any better:

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https://pro-football-history.com/blog/10/18/redemption-or-retread

They aren't that much better. But in Wilkes case you have real experience with the team and know he can win. With new guys with no proven experience it is a crap shoot. Still that is what folks want. Instead of taking a coach who could deliver solid but unspectacular results we go for the unknown since he could be great even if history says he wont.

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They aren't that much better. But in Wilkes case you have real experience with the team and know he can win. With new guys with no proven experience it is a crap shoot. Still that is what folks want. Instead of taking a coach who could deliver solid but unspectacular results we go for the unknown since he could be great even if history says he wont.

If you know he is "solid but unspectacular" why in the hell wouldnt you want to roll the dice to get spectacular? Simply being good enough has been what this franchise has settled for since its inception

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It cuts both way you also have Kingbury. Lovie Smith, Eberflus, Dennis Allen among others flaming out. The Daboll success is what folks will remember and say let's do it. They don't remember that most new coaches struggle particularly with no extensive NFL experience or head coach experience.

Yep.  Can imagine some of these guys will have certain things down, but then there's probably a ton of nuances that they can only improve upon with experience and having the right guys around them.  Some of these guys have been around some pretty esteemed or diverse staffs, others, do have quite brief stints so far. Daboll is a good example of a guy that interfaced with a ton of different coaching trees and circles.  Has likely built off some great mentors and experience.  

Then you look at Steichen; he was pretty much with Mike McCoy, Frank Reich and Siriani his whole career.  It's a pretty siloed group.  And he's supposedly a pretty awkward guy.  Is he really a guy that can manage things Monday through Thursday?  

Interesting questions to rummage through this fine Tuesday

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