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1/17 Athletic/Brugler Mock: Panthers Trade Up


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1 minute ago, joemac said:

Whats not true? Murray is listed as 5'10" 207.  Bryce is listed at 6'0" 200ish.  Baker is listed at 6'1", but its more like 6 feet and 1 half inch.  

Some people say Bryce's true height is like a hair under 5'11".  I think it's marginal at the end of the day, if you're under 6'1, you start to get a bit small as a QB.  Once you dip below 5'10", then I'd say it's a big issue.  But if you are smaller, you have to still stand tall and read the middle of the field.  Bryce can do that and has a nice arc on his throws.  Biggest question with him is that build.  He's lean.

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5 minutes ago, joemac said:

Whats not true? Murray is listed as 5'10" 207.  Bryce is listed at 6'0" 200ish.  Baker is listed at 6'1", but its more like 6 feet and 1 half inch.  

Idk, I’m 6’0” exactly and I was taller than Baker the time I met him, think he was standing on his tippy toes at the combine.

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58 minutes ago, joemac said:

Ehhhhhh, IDK about that.  Kyler Murray went number 1 and hes smaller than Young.  Baker went 1 and hes not a big guy either.  

Bryce is 13 lbs lighter than Murray was and 20 lbs lighter than Baker was on draft night.

Bryce is taller than those guys but much more ‘slight in frame’. That’s where the injury fears come from.

Matt Corral is 6’1” and 212lbs. Bryce is 6” and 195.

Since most college w/h stats are inflated, he’s probably around his high school listing of 5’11 185

Not saying he will fall, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he does.

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2 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Idk, I’m 6’0” exactly and I was taller than Baker the time I met him, think he was standing on his tippy toes at the combine.

Yeah I kinda always thought Baker was lying about his height.  Ive seen pics of him standing next to Kyler and they are pretty much the same height. 

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25 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Playing it safe on relatively cheap investments at QB is working so well.

It is for the 49ers after blowing their load on Lance. 

I don't have a problem with this trade personally. I even like the HB in the 2nd. But I don't think we get a shot at Stroud without going much more than this offer. 

I would rather trade Burns for a pick to take a QB and take a DE at 9 personally but not my call. 

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Oh Brugler had some minor notes about the Gibbs pick in Rd 2:

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Carolina general manager Scott Fitterer said the Panthers will hunt “explosive-type” players in the draft and Gibbs is exactly that, both as a runner and receiver.

Jahmyr Gibbs goes off again and then hits them with the "Night, Night." pic.twitter.com/u3hN9uu6Ze

 

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