Sell me Justin Fields vs CJ Stroud

[raleigh-panther]

42 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

He struggled against several teams. Including Indiana and Northwestern. He won against them, but questions about Fields began then. He did slap Clemson around. Then struggled against the superior team in bama.

To be fair, that massive hit to Field’s  rib cage in the Clemson game probably helped that ‘struggling’ against Bama 

I have no idea how Fields got up from that hit.  Adrenaline and youth 

[Jackie Lee]

 

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I would sit tight at #9 and see who fell. 

Young is the best QB in this Draft, but he's tiny so you can't bet the farm on him. 

There wasn't a franchise QB in the 2022 Draft - there might not have even been a good starter. 

If you had the top pick which QB are you taking?

[Khyber53]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

True

I would take any of the top 4 QBs in this draft, I just wouldn't sell the farm to get him.  Reich could do wonders with any of them.   If you give everything up to get him the chances of putting quality players around him diminish quite a bit.

We have 4 picks in the top 100.   If one fell to us at #9 you have 3 more picks to fill in good young players to grow around him. 

And there were two QBs in this year's NCAA championship game that are available in this year's draft. Both could be available late second day or even the third day. Take a flier on one of them and let everyone else go crazy over a, well, lackluster and overhyped QB class.

Grab DE, TE, WR, DB, LB first. Build the team, then find the guy.

And I'm not so sure that the best QB available to us this coming season is someone who needs to be drafted.

 

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

If you had the top pick which QB are you taking?

Stroud and its not even close, his ball placement is already next level and he loves to push throws down field.  The anti teddy

[raleigh-panther]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I like Justin a lot 

shipped sailed 

[ncfan]

10 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Who dismissed his film?

He's never won the big game and he play on a STACKED team with multiple first round picks at WR. It's a huge concern - beyond anything you see on film about his ability to progress through his reads and his unwillingness to scramble. 

Edited February 1, 2023 by ncfan

[cookinbrak]

1 hour ago, La Pantera said:

 

Fields seemed to struggle against stout D's.

 

So a career in porn is out?

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Ah we're going for the literal strawman.

I guess my time here in this thread is over because you're acting like children. 

I'm just mocking your logic because it's all over the place.

[frankw]

9 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

The touch Stroud has on his passes and the anticipation he is able to throw his passes with sets him far apart from Fields as a passer.  I don't think there is a better QB in this draft that can throw the intermediate passes, particularly the out and corner routes, than Stroud. I still remember that Utah bowl game last year and the throws he made in that game were very impressive. Yes, his WRs have been elite the past 2 years, but he was still throwing dimes to his receivers and releasing the ball right as his receivers were making their cuts.

[ncfan]

12 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I’m shocked anyone actually believed they would trade him.

[ForJimmy]

15 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

True

I would take any of the top 4 QBs in this draft, I just wouldn't sell the farm to get him.  Reich could do wonders with any of them.   If you give everything up to get him the chances of putting quality players around him diminish quite a bit.

We have 4 picks in the top 100.   If one fell to us at #9 you have 3 more picks to fill in good young players to grow around him. 

So you would spend a top 10 pick on one of these QBs that you firmly believe aren't franchise QBs? 

[ncfan]

2 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

The touch Stroud has on his passes and the anticipation he is able to throw his passes with sets him far apart from Fields as a passer.  I don't think there is a better QB in this draft that can throw the intermediate passes, particularly the out and corner routes, than Stroud. I still remember that Utah bowl game last year and the throws he made in that game were very impressive. Yes, his WRs have been elite the past 2 years, but he was still throwing dimes to his receivers and releasing the ball right as his receivers were making their cuts.

People forget that.

 

this time last year coming off that game was he was the next big thing and would’ve been a top 3 pick in Last years draft if eligible