Why we won't get the #1 pick

[Growl]

teams aren’t obsessing over prospects that aren’t QBs

the first pick is for taking a QB or selling it to a team that wants a QB for a massive haul

[CPcavedweller]

4 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

I said this the other day. There are plenty of suitors with higher picks for them to trade down with. 
 

There are also more asses with hot seats in other teams than there are here. They will be willing to give up more than us. 
 

People need to go ahead and pre-order their Carr jerseys

I think Carr, along with the right draft picks, could be a solid pick-up. You just end up missing the window people get when you have a QB on a rookie contract. But when you only have five picks this year and a new defensive scheme, what are you going to do? Re-sign Sam Darnold for $10,000,000?

Yes. I'd say sign Darnold for two years with an out in Year 2. Build the core of the team, don't win too many games in 2023, take Maye or Williams in 2024. That's the closest you will get to potential All-Pro QB's to go 1 and 2. It's been a while since a draft has had two guys like them coming out. 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

This is why I think Arizona is a much better potential trade partner than Chicago. 

Panthers Vice President of Player Personnel Pat Stewart worked with new Cardinals GM Monti Ossenfort for close to a decade in the New England front office.

[ncfan]

8 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

I said this the other day. There are plenty of suitors with higher picks for them to trade down with. 
 

There are also more asses with hot seats in other teams than there are here. They will be willing to give up more than us. 
 

People need to go ahead and pre-order their Carr jerseys

I wouldn’t say Fitty’s name isn’t in this category. 
He goes and gets another  slap d!ck QB for a 3rd consecutive year or sits on his hands. And we go out a win 7-8 games.  He probably won’t be around here next year to draft one.

[jb2288]

First round QBs are a crapshoot when you don’t have an Andrew Luck or T Law type of guy. Nobody this year is that guy. Stay at 9 and grab who you like best left. 

[raleigh-panther]

The more likely scenario is the Panthers follow the previous model of trading to position 3 first…

then trade up from 3 to 1 

more light will come to light during the combine 

I mean, did anyone see the 49ers moving up for Lance ?

or KC moving up for Mahomes 

 

 

[bandu]

3 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

My biggest fear is we get to Atlanta and they screw us by trading down and someone grabs Richardson at 8. 

yeah you best believe that Terry Fontenot is going to do everything in his power to make sure that Richardson doesn't fall into Carolina's lap at #9...  just saying

 

 

 

 

[ncfan]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

First round QBs are a crapshoot when you don’t have an Andrew Luck or T Law type of guy. Nobody this year is that guy. Stay at 9 and grab who you like best left. 

It’s a 100000x less of a crap shoot than 2nd-7th rd QBs or cast offs you pick up in FA.

[Icege]

I can see moving up to #3 if Carolina falls in love with Young or Stroud and Houston takes the one they don't covet. The question then becomes: what cost are the Panthers willing to pay if one of the teams with a higher selection wants to slide up like the Colts or the Raiders?

On the flip side, with Irsay apparently smitten by the idea of drafting Will Levis, that might also mean that CJ Stroud is available at #9 should Seattle + Las Vegas not go QB in round one. If one of those teams does take Stroud (or Levis if available instead), there's still Anthony Richardson to gamble on.

[heel31ok]

13 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

We can't trade for the Number 1 pick now because we need draft picks for defense. Our list of holes on that side of the ball just got bigger. Now you probably should take BPA to build out the core of the team as best you can, or trade down if you're sure you can get who you want, and develop those guys while probably not being great. I just, I don't understand the scheme transition while you're looking for a new QB and only have five draft picks. 

That pretty much sizes it up.

[heel31ok]

10 minutes ago, bandu said:

yeah you best believe that Terry Fontenot is going to do everything in his power to make sure that Richardson doesn't fall into Carolina's lap at #9...  just saying

 

 

 

 

We can only hope his happens.

[ForJimmy]

18 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

We can't trade for the Number 1 pick now because we need draft picks for defense. Our list of holes on that side of the ball just got bigger. Now you probably should take BPA to build out the core of the team as best you can, or trade down if you're sure you can get who you want, and develop those guys while probably not being great. I just, I don't understand the scheme transition while you're looking for a new QB and only have five draft picks. 

We needed a DT, DE, LB (maybe 2), and a FS keeping our same 4-3 defense.  We now need a FS, NT, DE, and maybe LB.  We needed depth regardless, so how exactly does switching to a 3-4 give us MORE holes on defense?  It looks about the same except Burns is in his more natural position and Chinn can play LB which is his more natural position.

[DaveThePanther2008]

14 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

The more likely scenario is the Panthers follow the previous model of trading to position 3 first…

then trade up from 3 to 1 

more light will come to light during the combine 

I mean, did anyone see the 49ers moving up for Lance ?

or KC moving up for Mahomes 

 

 

You're going to give up a nice haul for 3 and then turn around and give up more for #1.  I think that is way too steep to give up draft picks for the #1 spot. 

[rayzor]

43 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I see us going up to 5 for Stroud 

I think that's all we'll need to pull it off, either Stroud or Young will be there  because colts will go Levis. Don't know which QB Houston will be sold on, but I think it's most likely Young. We just need to get ahead of the Raiders.