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Poll: What do you want Panthers to do for QB?

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What do you want Panthers to do this offseason?  

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  1. 1. What do you want Panthers to do regarding QB situation this offseason

    • Draft best available QB at current draft position (#9)
      59
    • Trade up with Bears (#1) and draft a QB (whatever it takes)
      47
    • Trade up with Cardinals (#3) and draft a QB (whatever it takes)
      58
    • Sign Derek Carr and draft best available player at #9
      51
    • Trade for Lamar Jackson, fully guaranteed contract (Watson like trade)
      2

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NanuqoftheNorth Grand Master

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Looking at the teams in front of us:

Moving up to #1 or even #3 might require more draft capital than the Panthers are willing to give up.

However, depending on how the first few picks fall, I could see Fitterer making a deal with his former associates in Seattle @ #5.  The Panthers might also make a deal with Detroit @ #6.  If neither of those organizations are going to select a QB, dropping back to #9 might be an option for additional picks.

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What’s the ultimate goal? Winning a Super Bowl? If yes then you don’t trade up for a QB. In the last 20 years only 5 times has the winning QB of the Super Bowl been a draft pick above the 9th pick. Peyton Manning(2), Eli Manning(2) and Matthew Stafford. 
 

If you want to go further, only 12 of the 40 starting QBs in the last 20 Super Bowls have been drafted before the 9th pick. 
 

Some of the Super Bowl winning QBs drafted in the first round but after the 9th pick?  Big Ben (11th), Mahomes (10th), Rodgers (24th) and Joe Flacco (18th).  The rest were all drafted after the first round. 
 

There’s a lot of luck in finding a franchise, Super Bowling winning QB. But trading up into the top five has not given any team in the last 20 years a Super Bowl victory. 

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5 hours ago, OldhamA said:

A Top 10 pick has to be a sure thing in my book.

None of these QBs are sure things, but you risk it for Stroud if he falls (he won't).

Young is the best QB in this Draft, but he's literally smaller than Murray. Levis I don't get the hype about at all and Richardson needs to sit at least a year.

No argument from me.

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WOW!! Grand Master

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2 hours ago, mountainpantherfan2 said:

What’s the ultimate goal? Winning a Super Bowl? If yes then you don’t trade up for a QB. In the last 20 years only 5 times has the winning QB of the Super Bowl been a draft pick above the 9th pick. Peyton Manning(2), Eli Manning(2) and Matthew Stafford. 
 

If you want to go further, only 12 of the 40 starting QBs in the last 20 Super Bowls have been drafted before the 9th pick. 
 

Some of the Super Bowl winning QBs drafted in the first round but after the 9th pick?  Big Ben (11th), Mahomes (10th), Rodgers (24th) and Joe Flacco (18th).  The rest were all drafted after the first round. 
 

There’s a lot of luck in finding a franchise, Super Bowling winning QB. But trading up into the top five has not given any team in the last 20 years a Super Bowl victory. 

Mahomes was a QB traded up for… Just saying..

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I hope we trade whatever it takes to get the 1st pick and draft our franchise QB. It's a perfect storm in so many ways that in my mind it makes sense. We have a good enough team to win the division next year if said 1st overall pick plays even half way decent. The future picks won't mean much if we're making the playoffs. How often is the top overall team not drafting a QB because they have their QB in place? The availability of the top overall pick when there is a potential franchise QB in the draft class is only once that I can think of with Goff and Wentz. We have the perfect coaching staff in place to groom our future QB. Trade what it takes. The top 3 picks next year(QBs) may not even be available for trade if they are QB needy teams for the people saying trade up next year.

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8 minutes ago, wesley17 said:

I hope we trade whatever it takes to get the 1st pick and draft our franchise QB. It's a perfect storm in so many ways that in my mind it makes sense. We have a good enough team to win the division next year if said 1st overall pick plays even half way decent. The future picks won't mean much if we're making the playoffs. How often is the top overall team not drafting a QB because they have their QB in place? The availability of the top overall pick when there is a potential franchise QB in the draft class is only once that I can think of with Goff and Wentz. We have the perfect coaching staff in place to groom our future QB. Trade what it takes. The top 3 picks next year(QBs) may not even be available for trade if they are QB needy teams for the people saying trade up next year.

Making plans a year early before season plays out is a losing strategy…

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stratocatter Mentor

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Carr.

I was dead set against another reclamation project but I don’t trust any of these QBs enough to bet the farm on. 

This team is ready for a QB and Carr isn’t a reclamation project.  He isn’t chopped liver as they say, Panthers would probably be favored to win the division with him, I would think. 

For that matter if a QB they love fell to 9 you they still take him if they felt that strongly. I wouldn’t expect that to happen but if so, it’s a problem that can be lived with better than no QBs. And we need a room with at least one to train. Two being groomed is better but if Carr is the guy they will need an experienced backup. 
 

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