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Panthers are now the betting favorite for the #1 pick

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

Or they pick 3 other positions of need and become a better TEAM this year. Then another good player next year.

But... they also pick a QB they didn't have to mortgage the rest of the TEAM for. Because they're such great coaches, they don't need the #1 pick to get a good QB that'll work for a really good team - see San Francisco. 

San Fran traded 3 firsts for Trey Lance 2 years ago and still made a nice playoff push this year.  If Lance was able to play in that last playoff game Purdy got injured, who knows what would have happened.  If nothing else San Fran shows up that trading up for a top 3 QB isn't as crippling to a franchise as people think.  Ask the pretty recent Super Bowl Winners the Eagles and the Rams.  

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

No you drive a car that you didn't have to take out a second mortgage to buy. Might not be a Porsche but doesn't have to be a run down crappy car. 

So what is your QB solution. Not trying to be an ass here, just curious. Mine is to risk it a bit and trade up for Stroud.

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So what is your QB solution. Not trying to be an ass here, just curious. Mine is to risk it a bit and trade up for Stroud.

I honestly wouldn't mind giving up a bit to get a good young QB. Just not too excited about giving up the haul needed to get to #1. There are good QBs that won't be picked by #9. If these coaches are as good as advertised, then shouldn't need to give up so much for competent play at the position. 

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9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

San Fran traded 3 firsts for Trey Lance 2 years ago and still made a nice playoff push this year.  If Lance was able to play in that last playoff game Purdy got injured, who knows what would have happened.  If nothing else San Fran shows up that trading up for a top 3 QB isn't as crippling to a franchise as people think.  Ask the pretty recent Super Bowl Winners the Eagles and the Rams.  

Good teams that were a QB away. That is not Carolina - yet.

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45 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

This is kind of a given. If the Colts are offering 3 firsts to move up 3 spots, it would probably take us about a bajillion picks to move up from 9. Most likely they can get at most 2 firsts from the Colts. From us, there are a lot of options. We could do 3 firsts and 1 second this year. Or 2 firsts and a haul of picks this year. The Bears need a lot of players, and I can see them passing on the very, very top tier talent for a load of picks. allowing them to do a 1 offseason overhaul.

For Colts to move up 3 spots would cost them (2) 1st round and (2) 3rd round not saying that is what would be offered, but trade value would need to be at least 3160, and for Panthers (us) to move up 8 spots would cost (2) 1st and (2) 2nds; not saying that is what should be offered, but trade value would need to be around 3280. Trade value for the #1 spot is 3000!

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18 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Look at the records (at the time) of the teams who made those moves. 

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The Eagles didn't even win with the QB they went up to get. As a matter of fact, Wentz missed the entire playoffs. That team was stacked - especially their defense. 

The Rams went with a proven vet they knew could get them over the hump. That team was stacked - especially their defense.

The 49ers just went to the Super Bowl with Mr. Irrelevant. The very last player (not just QB) picked in the draft - as a rookie. That team was stacked - especially their defense. 

But the Panthers should give up a bunch of 1st and 2nd round picks to get a QB. Like no other positions matter.

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8 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

The 49ers just went to the Super Bowl with Mr. Irrelevant. The very last player (not just QB) picked in the draft - as a rookie. That team was stacked - especially their defense.

They did? Last I heard they got blown out in the conference championship.

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