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rippadonn Grand Master

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AND I can't have a guy cower when asked to come and throw with all the other QBs and chooses to wimp out. Bad move.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bryce-young-combine-throwing-2023/

After reading THAT after other guys CAME OUT, PREPARED AND GAVE THE EFFORT to do so and one guy because of actual or perceived weakness chose willingly or from bad advice not to throw like CJ, Levi's, AR.

AR didn't hide due to perceived or actual accuracy issues. He came and threw like a man.

His people say he was healing up from injuries. I think the article above is more on target, which would be pathetic among competitive folk in my opinion.

Not a warrior mentality like Matt Corral who was actually showed up after being really injured and fought to complete the combine including showcasing his trade craft and he was still a little "hurt".

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4 hours ago, rippadonn said:

Ok, let's make this easy. Let's let the average woman pick for us, kinda like a dating show. Put the two gentlemen side by side, who do you think she'll pick.

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They lined them all up and the answer was not Matt Corral hahaha

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16 hours ago, mickeye76 said:

I'll tell ya secret, core strength and functional strength for tasks is different than weight room.  A 190 pound QB with a brain and good coaching can compete with a "adonis" on the field. Ever heard the phrase looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. Coaches know it. Combine warriors and gold medal winning underwear Olympics guys do happen. The mental game is part of the equation. Otherwise Jake Locker and Blaine Gabbery would still be playing QB somewhere. 

You can gather your 5'4, 5'10, 180, 125LB eric pages group and I will gather my 6'2, 6'5, 235, 315 adonis group on the football field under NFL rules. You would be curb stomp to the center of earth and the local city would run out of ambulances.

Young is a great QB, just had the bad luck of being born 100 year before he fit in with others. Odds are against, but there is a small chance hes very successful(NFL keeps making rules to project QBs). 

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3 hours ago, Basbear said:

You can gather your 5'4, 5'10, 180, 125LB eric pages group and I will gather my 6'2, 6'5, 235, 315 adonis group on the football field under NFL rules. You would be curb stomp to the center of earth and the local city would run out of ambulances.

Young is a great QB, just had the bad luck of being born 100 year before he fit in with others. Odds are against, but there is a small chance hes very successful(NFL keeps making rules to project QBs). 

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Lmaoooooooooo at that pic. 

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It's not the size of the dog in a fight, it's the size of the fight in the DOG.  

Bob Sanders, Mike Singletary, Robert Mathis, Brian Burns, Sam Mills, Aaron Donald, Barry Sanders, Wes Welker, Tyrann Mathieu, Thomas Davis, Shaq Thompson, Steve Smith Sr,  Darren Sproles and many more were likely told at some point "Your too small for NFL" 

I'm officially on the Bryce Young wagon.  There is more to the game than measurables.  JaWarus Russell was a prototype size QB with a "cannon"   look up combine warriors.  Look up draft busts who were considered prototypes.  

I'm not saying I don't like CJ Stround.  I will be excited bout that pick too. BUT if it's levis or AR I will be worried bout our future. 

 

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On 3/11/2023 at 10:39 AM, CPcavedweller said:

Some people question the plan here. We don't have the assets to build around the number 1 pick and the talent base of this offense is literally the worst in the NFL. So maybe we will have a decent offense by Year 3 of Reich, but this 1st year is going to be rough and I'd hate to ruin a number 1 pick by having them throw to Shenault, Shi Smith, Terrace Marshall, and Ian Thomas. 

Think about that for a minute. It's quite literally the worst receiving group in the NFL and it isn't even close. Then we have Blackshear and Chubba under contract at running back.

Then we have a transition to a 3-4 defense coming. 

So people aren't upset, they just don't see how this is going to work in the foreseeable future. It reeks of Tepper wanting a cash cow to me. He wants to be noticed. That's it. It's not about winning because if it were, trading down amd developing the talent base of the entirety of the roster would've been the better move here. Could've had potential stars on the lines, tight ends, running back, edge rusher, safety, corner, etc. 

Now we traded all of that for one pick, along with DJ Moore...

So yeah. People are wondering how this is going to work.

we have an excellent young defense and offensive line, an A+ coaching staff and 150 million in cap next year alongside with good draft capital the next few years. What more can you want?

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      I think the issue is there isn't any more of these posters still active on this site.  Everyone I see posting now either doesn't like Bryce or wants to see him in a better situation to make a better assessment.  I think everyone agrees he has work to do in order to show us he can become the QB we need him to.  Who knows if he will or if he can, but there are definitely other conversations to be had without being stuck on repeat and every thread turning into the same one.  It sounds like you need to find the Bryce Fan Boys from before the draft and just vent/hash it all out with them somewhere.  
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