Confused Why Some Seem to Think We Got Fleeced

[OldhamA]

46 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Moore was a good, solid WR.  He did not instill fear in defenses--someone said it best, "He is a #2."  His contract was team friendly as a #1.

In an article from Green Bay after Rhule was fired, the writer suggested/estimated that a trade for Moore would cost: " If there is a deal to be done, it could be a for 2023 2nd-round pick and a 2024 4th-rounder."

https://wisportsheroics.com/is-a-dj-moore-trade-feasible-for-the-packers/

So yes, instead of a 2025 first round selection, they basically got the 2023 equivalent of a second and fourth.  This was worth it for the Bears because Fields needs veteran WR help now, and it was worth it for the Panthers, who probably did not want to go more than 1 year without a first round selection.

 

I mean I could just as easily write an article saying Mahomes could be had for a jam sandwich.

[ForJimmy]

This year’s second is a late one and hopefully 25’s will be another late one. 24’s 1st and Moore are the big factors that will ultimately decide how this trade looks in the future. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

So if it’s Stroud are you ok with this trade to get him?

I'm still not happy with it because of the player being given up, but that's the only way I can justify the deal in any way.

Forfeiting picks matters less when you choose the right player, but when you don't, you're ending up with egg on your face and even more embarrassment for a franchise that, bar December of last year, has collected it like pollen on a car for years. 

In short: yeah, I'd get it. Still wouldn't be crazy about it, but it beats the alternatives of having lousy QB play and overpaying for garbage WRs. That part's coming next regardless.

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

That was three years ago. This is the pros where in two years he still stinks as a passer. 

Need people to throw to and protection. He has shown he can do it if you give him that. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I mean I could just as easily write an article saying Mahomes could be had for a jam sandwich.

What kind of jam?

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

Casual fans who don’t consider the pick swap say we gave up two 1sts. Then there is a discrepancy on how DJ is valued. 

Transactionally, we gave up two firsts but received one back.  Incrementally, we gave up one additional first.  But I quibble...

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

I'm still not happy with it because of the player being given up, but that's the only way I can justify the deal in any way.

Forfeiting picks matters less when you choose the right player, but when you don't, you're ending up with egg on your face and even more embarrassment for a franchise that, bar December of last year, has collected it like pollen on a car for years. 

In short: yeah, I'd get it. Still wouldn't be crazy about it, but it beats the alternatives of having lousy QB play and overpaying for garbage WRs. That part's coming next regardless.

Let’s see what we do to address the WR room and if we pick Stroud before we release final judgement. Does that seem fair?

[Jaxel]

Considering all the Bears fans and radio hosts were yelling for like a 2023 1st 2 2nds, 2024 first, 2025 first and second, DJ Moore and Brian Burns, I would say they probably feel like they got fleeced lol.

Reality is, it didn't matter who traded up for 1, it was always going to look like a fleecing, that why it's only happened like 13 times in NFL history.

 

 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

What kind of jam?

For Mahomes? It has to be grape because it’s the GOAT of jams!

[bythenbrs]

1 hour ago, FugginPoo said:

We also freed up $10m in cap space by including Moore over the 25 first

Addition by subtraction

[JawnyBlaze]

Good deal for both teams because Chicago got the #1 receiver they’ve been needing since Robinson left and we didn’t have to give up nearly as much draft capital as was originally expected. People saying we got fleeced are just saying that cuz it’s the Panthers so of course whatever they did was the dumb move.  They also tend to overlook the details like how this year’s second is the later one and we still have our second round pick and how the other second is two years down the road, not next year’s.  I even heard one ESPN reporter talking to Schefter say “2023 first and second and 2024 first and second plus DJ Moore!” and Schefter didn’t even bother to correct him.  

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

For Mahomes? It has to be grape because it’s the GOAT of jams!

Black raspberry is the GOAT.

[RumHam]

1 hour ago, 1989 said:

We also created a lot of cap space by moving DJ. Not sure how much, but that’s another positive. 

He had a cap hit. Current free agent wide outs are trash

[ForJimmy]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Black raspberry is the GOAT.

It’s edgy, but you can’t top the OG.