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Confused Why Some Seem to Think We Got Fleeced
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By electro's horse · Posted
Not to me but I'm jumping in here. On offense, the NFL is easier than ever. The rules have all been changed in their favor, college game is more advanced, they're better athletes with better training, etc. Dan has been in the NFL almost constantly since he was drafted in 2001. He's been in the league for nearly a quarter century, in a variety of roles, in multiple organizations as a FO person and player, with only a brief absence to somehow run a pizza restaurant into the ground. Just because he's been the final decision maker (supposedly) for three years doesn't change that. Dave is A Bad Headcoach and I hate him, but there's no shortage of examples of coaches having very quick success. The superbowl was just won by a coach in his second season. Matt Lafleur was OC for only 2 seasons. Ben Johnson got 11 wins out of the dismal Bears. Liam Cohen came from the same place our coach did and immediately had the Jags playing better than the Panthers ever have. Demeco has been to the playoffs 3 times in 3 years. Canales has been in the NFL for 15 years, and has been around success in multiple franchises. It's clear he wasn't the key to the success (actually demoted towards the end of his time in Seattle, Tampa Bay did better without him) but another year or two isn't going to change anything; he is what he is. On top of that, he's actually giving up responsibilities in his fourth year. He already didn't have roster control over the defense down to gameday starters (unthinkable) but now he's not even calling plays. He's not some organizational guru like Andy Reid (didn't even hire the DC). Not sure I can think of another coach who's doing less in his third year than Canales is now that wasn't poo canned. There's no role for the tight end in this offense so it doesn't really matter, but I'm going to go ahead and combine this with WR because the college game is so advanced (see *) now they don't really have the transition period they did in the past. I mean Tet immediately looked the part, Coker is (imo) the best player on the team, and there just isn't a lot of room for a third wide receiver to have any production. This is another reason burning a third on a WR* was such a stupid thing. What's the marginal improvement here? You've already got a couple of straight line guys who can't block in the running game. Offensive line is this team's strength. Good mix of young/old, good and bad contracts, good coaching etc. Good position to be in Bryce is entering his fourth year and he just is what he is. There were multiple first and second year QBs who outperformed him/looked better last year. Shough was a rookie who outplayed him twice and looked better overall. Assuming you can make him stop diving headfirst into walls, you absolutely take Jaxson Dart over Bryce moving forward. Contract not withstanding I think most people take Cam Ward over Bryce in a vacuum. Maye is in his 2nd year and (2025 schedule not withstanding) looks worlds better than Bryce. And that's to say nothing about Caleb, CJ or motherfuging Bo Nix; i don't think someone can honestly stay they'd take Bryce over any of those players. yeah sure CJ looked like poo against the Broncos in the playoffs. I don't even want to think about what Bryce would have looked like against that defense. And also I don't want to hear about Drake Maye in the playoffs; LA, Houston, Denver, Seattle is probably the hardest stretch of defenses any QB has ever had to go through in the playoffs ever. And they weren't just very good defenses; seattle and houston were HISTORICALLY good. Anyway to wrap this up, the "experience" argument doesn't really work for the Panthers since all the key players are well past what you could realistically say is their initiation phase or whatever in the modern NFL. At the end of the day Canales and Bryce are just bad at their jobs, and when you compare them to their contemporaries it only reinforces this notion. I sincerely cannot think of a QB whos had more resources dedicated to his drafting and "success" than Bryce, and I can't think of a third year coach who does less than Canales is poised to do heading into this season. * Tennessee wide receivers in the nfl lmao -
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Great point. I would lke to add that there is another QB on the roster who was terrible over the middle--Kenny Pickett.
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