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Brooklyn 3.0 Grand Master

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I'll never get the "his ceiling is the highest" BS on AR. His passing accuracy is average right now, his footwork is average right now, his experience is below average right now. He can run it like crazy, yes. He has a huge arm, yes. He is in freak shape, yes. But none of that makes a great QB. Right now his ceiling is hoping he can even be as good as Young and Stroud are today. And if he will get better, they will too. His ceiling has zero to do with his QB skills. Just his athleticism. It's like signing a young LeBron James away from the NBA and trying to get him to be a star QB. It's insane. Young has a MUCH higher ceiling if you can just put some weight on him which is asking much less than with AR. Helping Stroud outside of the pocket is harder, but still much easier than teaching AR how to be an accurate QB. QBs throw it first and foremost, and Young and Stroud will always ... always be better than AR at that.

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Feel like if we draft AR all this hype will end with a wet fart. 
Not saying AR can’t be successful. Just find it weird that we trade up to 1 only to draft a player that may of been there at 9. 
A player that won’t be able to start for a long time. We are talking 1 to 2 seasons. If he is ever ready. 

 

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1 minute ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'll never get the "his ceiling is the highest" BS on AR. His passing accuracy is average right now, his footwork is average right now, his experience is below average right now. He can run it like crazy, yes. He has a huge arm, yes. He is in freak shape, yes. But none of that makes a great QB. Right now his ceiling is hoping he can even be as good as Young and Stroud are today. And if he will get better, they will too. His ceiling has zero to do with his QB skills. Just his athleticism. It's like signing a young LeBron James away from the NBA and trying to get him to be a star QB. It's insane. Young has a MUCH higher ceiling if you can just put some weight on him which is asking much less than with AR. Helping Stroud outside of the pocket is harder, but still much easier than teaching AR how to be an accurate QB. QBs throw it first and foremost, and Young and Stroud will always ... always be better than AR at that.

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7 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I think they love the idea of AR. So do I. 

They need to fall in love with more than an idea, though. 

It really would be a disappointment if they picked him at 1 or even 2. I mean a serious let down. Not as bad as if it were Levis, but still it just wouldn't seem like a very grounded decision.

If they are seriously considering AR at 1 makes me wonder if they think he can start this season. 
I can not remember a team taking a project QB at 1 ever. 
AR may not be ready to start for a season or 2.
Lance was taken at 3 but I think if Jimmy G wasn’t there he would have started his rookie year. 
Also do Panthers fans want to watch Dalton for maybe 1 or 2 seasons and waste even more of our core defensive and O-line players prime, potentially

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8 minutes ago, Verge said:

I am not going to be mad at any of the quarterbacks going one outside of Levis and Hooker. 

Do you think the FO thinks AR can start day 1? 
Because all I see is a 1 or 2 year red shirt player. 
As I’ve said. I can’t remember a project player being drafted at 1 overall. 
Being draft 1st usually means you are gonna start day 1. Baring some catastrophe in training camp. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The combine measures raw physical talent. I guess you missed it.

The other thing I think it shows to is the level of dedication to being prepared. Some guys show up and rely on physical ability alone. Others show up after weeks of training tweaking little things to give them a tenth of a second better result in the 40, or a smoother shuttle, etc. Those aren't things you can't really measure but show in how a prospect performs. 

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

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If we are gonna draft AR we definitely need to trade down to 4th or lower. 
AR probably won’t see the field till 2024 at the earliest. 
Don’t really wan’t to take a project player at 1st but it Would make me feel better if we got away from 1st overall and get some picks back if we plan to draft him. 

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