Did the S2 TEST take CJ out?

[Billy Goat]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Not sure how it has been validated, except people are saying Brock Purdy is the poster boy for it.  Still, it is an interesting concept.  In fact, they should put a mini S2 in your car and if you don't pass it after a certain hour it calls an Uber for you.

There was some interesting info in The Athletic piece on it back in February. This for example

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results.

“Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s,” Ally said.

[Wolfcop]

I hope CJ makes 15 straight pro bowls and makes these people look stupid. It’s disgusting how people put these kids business out there like that, if it is even true. No way to verify it. 

[Ivory Panther]

22 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Never even heard of some of these tests before we moved up to 1. Now the draft Richardson camp are saying we HAVE to draft Richardson now. 

League likes to overreact.
 

The fact that Purdy was the last pick of the draft yet did well in this test & well with 49ers has been a big endorsement for that test.

 

[frankw]

If we've already heard about Levis and Richardson's scores idk why we would not have Stroud's. If he scored low what's the number? Seems like there are some draft games being played.

[Growl]

6 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

I hope CJ makes 15 straight pro bowls and makes these people look stupid. It’s disgusting how people put these kids business out there like that, if it is even true. No way to verify it. 

people were just complaining how it was “poor journalistic integrity” to put Young’s score out and not Stroud’s.

what is the right answer?

[stan786]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

If we've already heard about Levis and Richardson's scores idk why we would not have Stroud's. If he scored low what's the number? Seems like there are some draft games being played.

I think its up to the prospects to release them or something, but then why does Zuerline get to if thats the case. Bizarre.

[poundaway]

No.  This is why.

 

[csx]

That they've been testing players since 2015 and we've never heard poo about it until now suggests teams don't put much stock in it. It would have come up by now. It's just because of Purdy that it's being touted. 

Give us all the results if you expect us to drool over it.

Edited April 13, 2023 by csx

[csx]

6 minutes ago, stan786 said:

I think its up to the prospects to release them or something, but then why does Zuerline get to if thats the case. Bizarre.

It's a measured release from S2 I'm sure....for marketing themselves 

Edited April 13, 2023 by csx

[Lame Duck]

[hepcat]

What about the S Club 7 test?

[Ivory Panther]

4 minutes ago, csx said:

That they've been testing players since 2015 and we've never heard poo about it until now suggests teams don't put much stock in it. It would have come up by now. It's just because of Purdy that it's being touted. 

Give us all the results if you expect us to drool over it.

I agree.
 

i think Purdy doing well after being “mr irrelevant” gave the test more credence. 
 

now teams are gonna over react to it. 

[LordOfDaWingz]

31 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Not sure how it has been validated, except people are saying Brock Purdy is the poster boy for it.  Still, it is an interesting concept.  In fact, they should put a mini S2 in your car and if you don't pass it after a certain hour it calls an Uber for you.

Joe Burrow, Pat Mahomes, Josh Allen are the poster boys for it. Each had the highest score in their class and each were considered elite scores. 

[Tbe]

Here is a newer article at the S2.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/03/21/nfl-s2-cognition-quarterbacks/

After a few years of vetting, S2 expanded to a small group of teams, including the Bills, Indianapolis Colts and Kansas City Chiefs. It later began to work with up to two teams per division, including the Panthers and Washington Commanders.

 

Among the 117 quarterbacks S2 had tested up to the 2022 draft, the 13 with career passer ratings above 90 averaged an S2 score (91) that was 40 percentile points higher than those with career passer ratings below 90. Those top-tier quarterbacks tested significantly better in seeing the full field (tracking capacity), picking up on tendencies (instinctive learning), filtering through “if-then” rules during plays (decision complexity) and focusing amid stimuli (distraction control).