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Gerry Green

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2 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

Name. Which. Bama. WR. You. Want. Us. To. Draft.

This is a snippet from Danes Brugler scouting report on Stroud to support your point. He is still graded favorably as the No. 2 QB and 4th overall prospect 

WEAKNESSES:  guilty of locking and lingering on his preferred read … accustomed to being protected very well in the pocket … subpar backfield elusiveness will lead to punishment from NFL pass rushers … inconsistent ability to reset and figure out plan B when the defense fools him … capable of using his legs to scramble (forced 3 missed tackles in the Peach Bowl against Georgia), 
but was an inconsistent improviser and didn’t look comfortable escaping for the majority of his OSU career (only 1 missed tackle in his first 27 games) … benefited from an all-star cast around him

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Ohio State, Stroud was a record-setting passer for the Buckeyes in head coach Ryan Day’s multiple spread offense. While leading
the FBS in touchdown passes (41) in 2022, Stroud broke Drew Brees’ Big Ten record for the most touchdowns in a two-year span and finished with 17 Ohio State 
records (second in school history with 8,123 career passing yards). Structurally sound, Stroud throws with patience and poise and he can make all the throws. Though
he appears comfortable on plays designed to move his launch point, his improvisation skills when things break down are a work in progress (his outstanding 
performance on the 2022 Georgia tape raises the level of optimism). Overall, Stroud must become more comfortable embracing his athleticism and escapability, 
but he is an outstanding rhythm passer with touch, pacing and ball-speed control to carve up the defense. His passing skills give him an encouraging floor as an 
NFL starter and his development as a creator will ultimately determine his NFL ceiling. 

GRADE: 1st Round (No. 4 overall)

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2 minutes ago, 96Bravo said:

I'll be honest. I keep watching play after play of both Stroud and Young from one game after another. Really in hopes that I'll fall in love with Young's style. 

He's very elusive. I like that. Despite his size, I'm not too worried about his durability. He can turn an ugly play into a brilliant one. Great poise.

But when I watch Stroud I see a QB that just makes it "look easy". He's also clearly poised. Smooth, quick release.  Beautiful ball placement.  Regardless of what some test suggests, he clearly processes defenses quickly and effectively with his progressions. 

Some think Stroud isn't fiery enough. I say he's just stone cold out there. Maybe he's Iceman to Young's Maverick. 

I really do like Stroud. He makes it look easy because a lot of times it was easy. Clean pocket and WRs with separation will be a layup for him everyday. It will be interesting to see how he does when it’s not easy. If he continues from that UGA game he will be something special in the NFL.

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5 minutes ago, Martin said:

I think Ohio State had a better offensive line up. Alabama had a much better defense, nobody is questioning that. Everyone is questioning that Young was surrounded by scrubs and no names.

Which teams that Alabama played this year had a better roster than Alabama outside of Georgia? Would love for you to answer that question.

Sure thing bud. Removing qb or keeping them on their teams? I’d absolutely take Tenn and Texas roster over Bamas, sans qb. Including Georgia - that’s 3 ROSTERS MINUS QB that we can argue. What would happen if you threw Young onto the preschool for qb that is OSU?

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

I really do like Stroud. He makes it look easy because a lot of times it was easy. Clean pocket and WRs with separation will be a layup for him everyday. It will be interesting to see how he does when it’s not easy. If he continues from that UGA game he will be something special in the NFL.

I said the same thing about Trevor Lawrence headed into his draft. I predicted he'd struggle right away because he had the luxury of holding on to the ball for long periods of time at Clemson. The good news is Stroud doesn't hold on to the ball very long at all typically. 

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15 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yep he is not elite and signed to start over Trask. What does that make Trask? How is Carson Strong? Who also had durability concerns just like Corral.

Oh god, I forget he was screaming about wanting Carson Strong with a top 10 pick. 😂

Richardson's camp should send him a cease and desist for the jinx job of being ripp's QB of choice.

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11 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

Sure thing bud. Removing qb or keeping them on their teams? I’d absolutely take Tenn and Texas roster over Bamas, sans qb. Including Georgia - that’s 3 ROSTERS MINUS QB that we can argue. What would happen if you threw Young onto the preschool for qb that is OSU?

Wait... what? Yeah Bama was down last year but "down" for Bama is still a top 5 roster.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh god, I forget he was screaming about wanting Carson Strong with a top 10 pick. 😂

Richardson's camp should send him a cease and desist for the jinx job of being ripp's QB of choice.

Haha yep. This year he liked Levis, then “loud for Stroud,” and now AR. That pretty much confirms Young is the right choice…

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