Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

NFL model analytics player compares

Lame Duck

By Lame Duck,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Varking Grand Master

Varking

Posted
Posted

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

  • Pie 8
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

They plugged intangibles into their models and compared to active players who made transition from college to NFL in last 10-15 years

Bryce Young - Teddy Bridgewater/Tua

Stroud - Wentz

Levis- Darnold/Cutler

Were they only looking for bad comps? 😬

  • Pie 4
  • Flames 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Focusing so heavily on recency is going to really limit your potential comps. I do think Brees and Wilson are the best comps for Young. Brees-like passer, though Brees had an advantage both in a strength and pure accuracy IMO. Wilson-like in mobility.

This is what I've been seeing and I'm sticking with it until proved otherwise.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
ForJimmy Grand Master

ForJimmy

Posted
Posted
24 minutes ago, Varking said:

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

Lol right. I was trying to figure out who he was arguing for… maybe Tua or Wentz if either could stay healthy?? Still don’t see Wentz in Stroud at all. Stroud is Goff with Burrow being his absolute ceiling if you want to do a comp ( which I don’t really understand as no two players are the same)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
TheCasillas Grand Master

TheCasillas

Posted
Posted (edited)
54 minutes ago, Varking said:

The best Teddy 2 Gloves ever was, was NFL average. And both Teddy and Tua spend forever hurt. That’s not good. 

Wentz had one elite season and then injuries seem to ruin him.

Darnold was never good. Cutler was exciting but never great.

 

If these are the comparisons, this is a bad class lol.

they are comparing the positives of those player, not the negatives. How they landed on those players is total opinionated because it is the authors custom "algorythm" 

Edited by TheCasillas
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Pup McBarky Proficient

Pup McBarky

Posted
Posted
41 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

They plugged intangibles into their models

The term "intangible" means it cannot be measured. Literally.

Then there's this from the article:

Quote

The goal for the comps: showing some of the strengths, weaknesses and unknown résumé aspects for each prospect, while offering a perspective to approximate how team analytics departments might view the player's potential NFL impact.

Yeah. Her magic models are gonna show us "unknown resume aspects" for each prospect?

That's some damn wizardry right there. These comps are about as accurate as all the others. Nothing but guesses.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

they are comparing the positives of those player, not the negatives. How they landed on those players is total opinionated because it is the authors custom "algorythm" 

Agreed. They started out with an idea that they didn't think highly of this class and put in data that would fit whatever narrative they wanted to roll with.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Lame Duck Grand Master

Lame Duck

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Just now, rayzor said:

Agreed. They started out with an idea that they didn't think highly of this class and put in data that would fit whatever narrative they wanted to roll with.

 

Seems like only huddle thinks highly of this class.  This class is so good that #2 needy Houston looking to trade down.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

Seems like only huddle thinks highly of this class.  This class is so good that #2 needy Houston looking to trade down.

We only need one to work and we've got our eyes set on the right one.

I think this class is really good, but Houston needs help everywhere ave they've got a lot of picks. They can come back at 12 and still get their franchise guy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • strato
      OFFICIAL Panthers @Packers GameDay Thread

      By strato · Posted

      I watched a clip of all the offensive snaps. Young threw into some tight coverage and the guys made some plays on the ball. He also really missed some throws.  He has this middle of the field thing into a tight window pretty good and made three or four nice plays but he was just too inconsistent with his accuracy especially in the red zone. Today and in general.    That Int where people were chastising Legette for ‘not fighting through the coverage’, he in no way could have gotten to that ball. IMO. I think he thought it was going to hit the ground and didn’t see the defender coming for it. But not sure what he could have done. The camera doesn’t show the spatial relationship very well, I think the ball was way off. maybe 6 feet or more off target to the inside of the field.  Rico is a beast. And a very good receiver.   That was my impression without dissecting and rewinding, just letting the video roll. I did rewind the int two or three times to look at that one. 
    • strato
      As I watch Darnold tonight...

      By strato · Posted

      My biggest issue with keeping Darnold, which I felt we should have done, is we would still have Fitterer. And everything that came with that.  I think Morgan is going to be good.  Baker, just did not play well at all here. Not sure what else we were supposed to take away from it at the time.  That’s my short ‘I don’t want to argue about it’ take. 
    • Packersfan
      Bryce Young Haters..

      By Packersfan · Posted

      Even if we somehow make the playoffs we will be one and done so fast. Seattle, Rams, TB, Panthers, Detroit and Philly are all better than us.
×
×
  • Create New...