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CJ Stroud: I’m a football player, not a test taker

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CPF4LIFE Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Maybe you should ignore such misguided attacks as they are either ill informed or joking.  Young will have to deal with short jokes the rest of his career.  Stroud will probably be label dumb even though it's far from the truth.  Levis will be labeled as a weirdo and Richardson...well I'm not sure what label he well carry but I'm sure there is one. It is what it is.

Thats cool...But you originally said nobody was saying those things and now you are acknowledging that they are. Thats all that needs to be understood.

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1 hour ago, Newtcase said:

So if you want to split hairs then I have a few reasonable responses.  Bryce may come in a bit smaller than these guys, making your statement technically true.  However, the spirit of your argument is that small is pretty much a guaranteed bust and that certainly isn't true.  These players span the history of the game as it's evolved, clearly it's possible to get it done quite successfully even if you're smaller than average.

Drew Brees 6' 200lb.

Russel Wilson 5'11" 215lb.

Joe Theismann 6' 192lb

Len Dawson 6' 190lb.

Fran Tarkenton 6' 190lb.

Sonny Jurgensen 5'11" 202lb.

 

Okay cool my friend, but the poster I responded too basically said in similar stance a bad scored on a test means that a player wont be a good QB in the league because nobody with a bad score ever has. Im just calling out the bad logic in the discussion.

Far as the players you listed, yes they are considered small but you are still overlooking the fact that Bryce is even smaller than all those guys so technically he is still a outlier all of his own and will have to do something never been done before for a player like him. Thats all.

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12 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Far as the players you listed, yes they are considered small but you are still overlooking the fact that Bryce is even smaller than all those guys so technically he is still a outlier all of his own and will have to do something never been done before for a player like him. Thats all.

How am I overlooking it, my second sentence is literally stating that he is smaller, I even use the phrasing "technically correct" to assess your take.  

Otherwise, I don't disagree with you.  Just gonna have some faith, if the staff can't get this pick right then there may be little hope they would have succeeded with anyone else.

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4 minutes ago, stan786 said:

You gotta respect how he doesn’t waste any time peeling Bannanas so he has more time to watch film.

Respectable, but makes him an outlier!  Kentucky QB is also an outlier.  

Personally I like his dance moves....

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Some of us are "young" enough to remember back to when sports news was limited to weekly/monthly mags. I recall a QB who was labeled as just a little mentally slow. Since then Terry Bradshaw has been riding that horse to the bank every week for forty+ years.

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2 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

The data also says a QB at 5'10 and barely weights 190 pounds is pretty much guaranteed not to be a success because its literally never been done but we are not gonna run with that now are we?? 

If it has never been done, the data really doesn't show a damned thing to be honest.

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      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By Mr. Scot · Posted

      Nope Still missing it. Let's try this a different way... You have two quarterbacks from schools that ran the same kind of offense - maybe even two from the same school - on a given team (not necessarily the Panthers). One is designated the starter while the other is named the backup. Why?
    • CRA
      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By CRA · Posted

      yeah, pretty sure boss.....when things match and fit in the NFL.....the results then show it.  and when they don't, well, the results show that as well.  Bryce doesn't fit.   *but I get why late season and wants to argue with everyone Mr. Scot has also turned into a please don't talk to me about stats guy as well.  Given, the stats that reflect offensive productivity work against all your present arguments. 
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      Why does Bryce get the blame?

      By Mr. Scot · Posted

      Yeeeah...stats and rankings have zero to do with a discussion of scheme and skill set match. Maybe look up definitions of style vs ability and see if that helps. At this point, you've basically had three different people explain to you where you're wrong, but rather than addressing any of those statements, you're just resorting to straight deflection.  You don't get it. Either that or you're acting like you don't get it so that you can avoid the discussion because it's not going well for you. (that wouldn't surprise me either) 😄 Sme result either way, I suppose.
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