Joe Person: Dave Tepper tipped Panthers next pick

[TheMostInterestingMan]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We have bandaids, I'm not sure we have any long-term solutions. Thielen is 32 and is on the decline. Chark is talented but is usually injured. TMJ will hopefully develop. On paper, this is definitely a bottom 10 NFL WR corps. Hurst is a former 1st round bust who is knocking on the door of 30. Three teams in five years basically putting up good backup caliber stats. I honestly think we significantly overpaid him.

Look, I agree that these aren’t the weapons to serve BY throughout his Panthers career, but I think the signings show intent. This is a significantly better WR group than Cam ever had while he was here to be honest.

The problem with just being determined to get him weapons is the value left in this draft. There’s genuine day 1 starters on the defensive side of the ball where we need help. You have very few players on the offensive side of value other than OG. Michael Mayer probably is value now, but the WR class in the draft is just pretty weak. At this point you are looking at Downs, Mingo and Hyatt and they are probably all more 3rd round level talents in your average draft class. 
 

In short, I think the bandaid is fine this year. Of course we need to get BY weapons but I would rather get a 1st round talent on defense at 39 than a 3rd round talent on offense. I think we can make due this year with what we have.

Though to be honest, I would REALLY love Torrence or Avila. My ideal pick would be one of those guys. I’m all for just going ahead and making this offensive line the best we have ever had.

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Look, I agree that these aren’t the weapons to serve BY throughout his Panthers career, but I think the signings show intent. This is a significantly better WR group than Cam ever had while he was here to be honest.

Signficantly better than anything Cam had? Cam's rookie receiving option were better than what we have now. 

89, Olsen, Shockey, Lafell, LEGATRON!!!!!, 2 pro bowl RBs? 

There is a reason 89 broke the rookie passing record.  He had basically an ideal group around him. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Signficantly better than anything Cam had? Cam's rookie receiving option were better than what we have now. 

89, Olsen, Shockey, Lafell, LEGATRON!!!!!, 2 pro bowl RBs? 

Okay sure. I guess I mean throughout most of Cams career. Smitty and Olsen were gone very quickly. And then the talent nosedived. Ted Ginn Jr, Lafell, KB (who was actually great before his mother passed in fairness) 

I’m forgetting so many names right now, but that’s my point really. Cams WRs for most of his career were remarkably forgettable.

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Okay sure. I guess I mean throughout most of Cams career. Smitty and Olsen were gone very quickly. And then the talent nosedived. Ted Ginn Jr, Lafell, KB (who was actually great before his mother passed in fairness) 

I’m forgetting so many names right now, but that’s my point really. Cams WRs for most of his career were remarkably forgettable.

I mean, Cam's weapons were just flat out better when he was young and developing.  Which for is the key for a young QB IMO.  You got to give him weapons early.  Especially his first 3 seasons as a pro Cam had a good cast.   

I'd rather give a young QB great weapons early and then adjust later.  Not start weak and slowly add.  Think they develop better when life is good early. 

[MrBubba]

Tepper full remarks in the PC actually sounded much worse. Also please stop comparing quarterbacks to point guards.  

[jayboogieman]

48 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Though to be honest, I would REALLY love Torrence or Avila. My ideal pick would be one of those guys. I’m all for just going ahead and making this offensive line the best we have ever had.

[Daddy_Uncle]

Or we want a WR and Tepper is playing 3D chess

[TheMostInterestingMan]

17 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, Cam's weapons were just flat out better when he was young and developing.  Which for is the key for a young QB IMO.  You got to give him weapons early.  Especially his first 3 seasons as a pro Cam had a good cast.   

I'd rather give a young QB great weapons early and then adjust later.  Not start weak and slowly add.  Think they develop better when life is good early. 

Again, I agree with you. I just think it’s unreasonable to assume we have no intention of continuing to add talent for BY down the road and I think our offense is being really underestimated by fans in this board. No, we don’t have a superstar offensive weapon for BY (we traded that guy to get him essentially) but he has real talent on this roster imo. A lot better than most #1 picks get. And there just isn’t value at #39 unless it’s Mayer, but he’s not exactly a lightening weapon. He’s just an all round solid old school style TE.

[WOW!!]

17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, not really.

People have been speculating that our next pick could be on defense for hours.

Literally their biggest signing in FA was 3 wrs a RB TE and 2 Olinemen.. It’s really not that hard to see defense might be a big focus in the draft after FA mostly used on offense..

[therealmjl]

2 hours ago, MrBubba said:

Tepper full remarks in the PC actually sounded much worse. Also please stop comparing quarterbacks to point guards.  

He talked way too much

[Mr. Scot]

So...guess not

[Varking]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

So...guess not

At this point folks are just looking for any and all reasons to blame Tepper for SOMETHING. 

[JawnyBlaze]

20 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Or we want a WR and Tepper is playing 3D chess

Prescient. 

[Mage]

On 4/28/2023 at 7:13 AM, CRA said:

And they still not giving Trevor what he needs to really grow and go. 

He has plenty of talent around him.  Ridley, Kirk, Jones, Engram, and Etienne.